[urq] A2 Rally FI

[Bob]

I actually have the A2 homologation papers... I should read them and 
find out. Ive browsed them before and I dont remember it being real 
specific about body stuff, just weight and overall production chassis.

Brandon Rogers wrote:

>all very interesting....I do recall seeing in the videos etc about how a
>small item malfunctioned, ausing her to DNF...and man those turbo k-cars
>kick arse.
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>So to expand on this rally stuff...in terms of homologation , how did Audi
>homologate the A2?  I can see how they homologated the alloy block, as
>suppposedly there are/were some alloy blocked cars running around, but what
>about the body (wider flares, taller spoiler) and what about the smaller
>motor (~2109cc vs 2144 cs to give the car a lighter weight requirement)  And
>of course - back to EFI - I guess it was legal to change the basic
>operation/architecture of the motor setup - as the rally cars had EFI
>(obviously unlike production cars) and they aslo had the big FMIC - again
>unlike production cars....I guess there was some flexibility built into the
>rules....
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>Brandon
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>>It gets worse Brandon.  I remember speaking with Ned back in the early
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>'90's about my direct experiences with racing and modifying dodge turbos
>back in the mid 80's.  Attached to my 12K USD Dodge GLH turbo in 1985 was a
>motronic box that didn't come to the audi until 1992 S4.  Although it used a
>single coil activation, the GLH turbo had a ten second overboost mode in
>stock trim (9psi OB, 7 steady state), knock sensor retard.  Mopar
>Performance also delivered a modified box that would hit 14-15psi OB based
>on knock only, and a 12psi steady state.  All with NO intercooler and dual
>bosch fuel pumps from the factory.
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>>Somewhere in my library I have the exact introduction INV number and Rally
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>of the A2 using Motronic.  I'm sure based on memory, that Audi was testing
>Motronic systems pretty early in the game, since the Audisport Bosch and
>Pierburg CIS were plagued with problems from Day 1 of WRC.  I will say too,
>that Audisport kept that basic mistrust of fueling systems right thru
>motronic EFI systems.  Even the 95 Group A S2 had quick release dual fuel
>pumps mounted on a board under the rear hatch, with quick switch capability
>of all lines to a fro.
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>>If one looks closely at the rally results of the A1 and early A2 chassis
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>in WRC, it sure seems apparent that CIS was one of (if not) the primary
>causes of Audisports rather disappointing results following early commanding
>leads.  I go further and propose, you might have even seen Mouton beat Rohrl
>for Drivers Championship in '83 if fueling wasn't an issue in the A cars
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>>HTH
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>>Scott Justusson
>>QSHIPQ Performance Tuning
>>'84 RS2URQ Project Tornado
>>'83 Urq gloss black
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>>In a message dated 1/31/2005 5:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Brandon
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>Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com> writes:
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>>>Guys-
>>>was re-reading the Motorsport Magazine from ~December that featured Stig
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>Blomquist re-visiting some of his past cars - including the quattro A2 ( His
>favorite!), SQ, RS200, ...others. Anyway in their mentioned that one of the
>changes to the car in A2 form A1 form was the introduction of Motronic. I
>found this interesting because I've always wondered why it took Audi so long
>to shift production cars to Motronic from CIS. BMW was using Motronic in the
>mid 80's. Then recently I read that a Porsche Turbo as late as the 90's
>still used CIS ( 1994 3.6 single turbo???)
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>>>Anyway--thoughts???
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>>>Brandon
>>>'84 urq w/ Motronic
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