[urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)

Thatcher Hubbard thatcher.hubbard at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 16:14:51 EDT 2005


My parents bought an 84 4kq when I was still a kid, there have been Audis in
the family ever since. The 4kq was reliable until it fell apart, they
replaced it with a used 5000tqa (that is now mine) that has needed its share
of maintenance over the years but it has primarily been
electrical/accessory/CIS-related stuff, never the drivetrain or the engine
itself. None of the Audis we've collectively had have ever left us on the
side of the road somewhere. The 5000 is over 200,000 miles now and it still
pulls like a train.

On 10/19/05, Pasqualoni, James E <james.pasqualoni at gs.com> wrote:
>
> Amen to that. I've never had so much as a single issue with the AWD
> system.
> Not on my 7 Audis with quattro or my 1 VW with Torsen AWD. And I've had
> old
> ones (83 Urq), high mileage ones (86 5ktq) and highly modified ones (95.5
> S6Aq)...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
> Of Thatcher Hubbard
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:06 PM
> To: Urq List
> Subject: Re: [urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)
>
> I've always found it very interesting that what was basically the first
> stab
> at a mass-production AWD system was very close to perfect right out of the
> gate. I know that our Audis are not famed for their reliability, but I
> don't
> feel like I hear about the AWD system crapping out on people very often,
> if
> at all. The torque split issue has evolved since then, and fancy electron
> differentials have increased the performance of AWD (e.g. the
> Japanese/Euro
> version of the Mitsu Lancer Evo), but it doesn't seem like anyone has been
> able to substantively improve on the original design as built by Audi.
>
> On 10/19/05, Pasqualoni, James E <james.pasqualoni at gs.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like you might be partially right. Watch the film on xDrive at
> > this link-you can clearly see a transfer case hanging off the side of
> > the tranny...
> >
> >
> > http://www.bmwusa.com/bmwexperience/BmwInDepth/BMWTechnology/Handling.
> > htm?id
> > =14
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
> > Behalf Of Brady Moffatt
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:03 PM
> > To: 'Ed Kellock'; Thatcher Hubbard
> > Cc: Urq List
> > Subject: Re: [urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)
> >
> > Do BMW still have a big transfer case hanging off the side of the
> > tranny, and halfshafts through the oilpan?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brady
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com]
> > Sent: October 19, 2005 11:57 AM
> > To: Thatcher Hubbard
> > Cc: Urq List
> > Subject: [urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)
> >
> >
> > So I have to laugh at each "new" "patented" AWD system.
> > The latest is BMW's xDrive. It's patented you know. Varies torque
> > infinitely. Starts at 35/65 f/r. Gee, ground breaking marketing, eh?
> > When was Quattro first mass produced? 1980?
> > I tried unsuccessfully to find some sort of technical review of xDrive.
> > I think the term "xDrive" is the only thing patented.
> > Ed
> >
> > *sigh*
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