[urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)

Brandon Rogers brogers at terrix.com
Wed Oct 19 17:58:10 EDT 2005


I don't know.  I'm not so sure about the open diffs.  Sure we can lock them 
but I like the _idea_ of the variable torque split....locked diffs are great 
on snow and ice, but I would guess variable is too.  My A4 is probably 
better in the snow than my urq - around town at least when I gun it around 
corners and such - it seems to hook up better....part of me wished I put the 
200 20V tranny in the urq when I did the swap...just to see the 
difference....

.....uh oh should we move this to the Torsen List???  ha ha

Brandon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thatcher Hubbard" <thatcher.hubbard at gmail.com>
To: "Urq List" <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)


> I've always found it very interesting that what was basically the first 
> stab
> at a mass-production AWD system was very close to perfect right out of the
> gate. I know that our Audis are not famed for their reliability, but I 
> don't
> feel like I hear about the AWD system crapping out on people very often, 
> if
> at all. The torque split issue has evolved since then, and fancy electron
> differentials have increased the performance of AWD (e.g. the 
> Japanese/Euro
> version of the Mitsu Lancer Evo), but it doesn't seem like anyone has been
> able to substantively improve on the original design as built by Audi.
>
> On 10/19/05, Pasqualoni, James E <james.pasqualoni at gs.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like you might be partially right. Watch the film on xDrive at this
>> link-you can clearly see a transfer case hanging off the side of the
>> tranny...
>>
>>
>> http://www.bmwusa.com/bmwexperience/BmwInDepth/BMWTechnology/Handling.htm?id
>> =14
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Brady Moffatt
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:03 PM
>> To: 'Ed Kellock'; Thatcher Hubbard
>> Cc: Urq List
>> Subject: Re: [urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)
>>
>> Do BMW still have a big transfer case hanging off the side of the tranny,
>> and halfshafts through the oilpan?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brady
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com]
>> Sent: October 19, 2005 11:57 AM
>> To: Thatcher Hubbard
>> Cc: Urq List
>> Subject: [urq] "new" AWD systems (was: Mark Komanecky?)
>>
>>
>> So I have to laugh at each "new" "patented" AWD system.
>> The latest is BMW's xDrive. It's patented you know. Varies torque
>> infinitely. Starts at 35/65 f/r. Gee, ground breaking marketing, eh?
>> When was Quattro first mass produced? 1980?
>> I tried unsuccessfully to find some sort of technical review of xDrive.
>> I think the term "xDrive" is the only thing patented.
>> Ed
>>
>> *sigh*
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