[urq] AF meter[was What cause overboost ? ]

[mayerk@umich.edu]

Given the narrow range of the stock 02 sensor, would it make sense to upgrade to a "wideband" sensor (seemingly a popular modification to contemporary cars, especially turbos)?
Would the ECU be able to take advantage of the additional information or would it just confuse the system?  Does the ECU (perhaps specifically the fuel map) have enough resolution to respond to the more detailed input?
--Ken

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From: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
> ... the 'heart beat" is not a big surprise because that's the way the system 
> works.  You should not think of the OXS as much more than an on/off switch.  
> What the ECU does is to flip the mixture slightly back and forth across stoich 
> when it is operating in closed loop mode to make sure it is in the stoich 
> ballpark.
> 
> As a reference, it is generally accepted that an engine produces the most power 
> at lambda = 0.9 and best fuel economy at lambda = 1.1 [Bosch Automotive 
> Handbook].  The standard "narrow band" OXS has a signal that is "off" at 0.975 
> lambda and fully "on" at lambda of 1.025.  This means that the best the "A/F" 
> meter can tell you is whether or not the mixture is above or below stoich.  I 
> too have one of Orin's meters ... I planned to install the LED display in one of 
> the unused switch blanks on the dash ... but by no means should anyone spend a 
> lot of money on the 20 LED displays ... 
> 
> The fact that the OXS has such a narrow active range is why most older engines 
> are allowed to go open loop at WOT ... it also means that the ECU does not have 
> direct feedback to determine that the engine is running at the mixture for best 
> fuel economy when in closed loop too ... 
> 
> Steve B
> San José, CA (USA)
> > 
> > JC Whitney has a Intelletronix unit for about $39.  These meters are really
> > 0-1000mV meters in ten segments.  As a voltmeter, they're really
> > accurate-I've checked them on a voltage standard.  They're all based on a
> > National Semiconductor IC.  If a A/F has ten or 20 segments, you can bet its
> > a NS IC doing the conversion.  In theory if the O2 is seeing stoich, then it
> > will output 500mV which is half on the gauge.  On my 5kcstq, its fascinating
> > to watch the ecu change mixture.  It looks almost like a heart beat monitor.
> 
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