[urq] 80's Audi were Below average in NHTSA crash test . Audi A4 bumpers are well rated

[Todd Phenneger]

I thought the Type 85 was the first car with Pro-Con 10.  Isnt that what it
debuted on?


> From: Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:30:59 -0400
> To: steven j <michellepfeiffersx at yahoo.com>
> Cc: urq list <urq at audifans.com>, Tony Hoffman <auditony at gmail.com>, Quattro
> List <quattro at audifans.com>, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [urq] 80's Audi were Below average in NHTSA crash test . Audi A4
> bumpers are well rated
> 
> Actually, they were also on the V8 and with airbags.  Plus I believe
> the Ur S-cars also had it...
> 
> On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:05 PM, steven j wrote:
> 
>> I've been looking at the NHTSA crash tests since they
>> came out in about 1979.   The 1985-ish Audi 5000 got a
>> horrible crash rating.  With the steering rack on the
>> firewall and that 5cyl going to the bumper the
>> steering wheel was pushed back in a crash delivering a
>> punch to the drivers head.  The 4000's tested at the
>> time were just the 4cyls - and the results weren't as
>> bad as the 5000, probably because the missing cylinder
>> allowed  an extra 5 inches before it started pushing
>> the steering rack back.  One would imagine a 5cyl in
>> the type 85 would be worse than the 5000 crash test.
>> Of course if you have an offset crash - and the engine
>> doesn't get pushed back - the car is probably fine.
>> For around 1989 Audi introduced PRO-CON-TEN in the 100
>> and 200 where cables push the engine forward in a
>> crash and those cars cut driver head injury to low
>> levels.
>> 
>> I think when airbags came the pro-con-ten cables might
>> not have been installed, but they were on the 100/200
>> only.   Feel free to correct me on details.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> ISTR that the 4k series cars were one of the highest
>>> rated chassis of
>>> their time in crashworthiness.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> On 8/16/07, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Having seen some of the Type 85's in the wrecking
>>> yard, I'd venture a guess
>>>> that
>>>> you didn't go "straight in" in your accident. The
>>> 4K's passenger compartment
>>>> seems to buckle in a header, at least based upon
>>> empirical forensic analysis
>>>> at the wrecking yard, I think you were lucky.
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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