[urq] NAC: 4wd 2CV Sahara

Fri Mar 16 14:54:20 EDT 2007

Cool car, no ?

2CV are very low-key vehicle. Beetles and Fiat 500 were downright luxurious
in comparison. WRT the seats; yes indeed, these are more like deck chair,
but they are removable, as well as the rear bench, so you can take then out
for pick-nick ! 

And that "Citroen" spirit is everywhere: the independent suspension is all
contained in the tube that runs bellow the door sills. It contains a spring
that is stretched by levers acting from the suspension arms. No shock
absorbers, but instead there is a "batter", a weight that counteracts the
suspension movement. Very light, very robust, very typical Citroen
innovation.

One day, I'll have one. Just for the coolness factor.

LAR

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Michael Hopton [mailto:Michael at siliconoptix.com] 
Envoyé : 16 mars 2007 14:27
À : Louis-Alain Richard; q - urq
Objet : RE: [urq] Info on old school Quattro Rallye car?

Louis-Alain,

I love the two key fobs, but is that a deck chair they used for the driver
seat! 

-----Original Message-----
From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
Of Louis-Alain Richard
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:15 PM
To: 'j.koenig'; QSHIPQ at aol.com; larrycleung at gmail.com;
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Cc: urq at audifans.com; maxjoyce at ipa.net; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [urq] Info on old school Quattro Rallye car?

There was also a factory 2CV twin engine car named "2CV Sahara". 694 were
built between 1958 and 1966.

http://www.geocities.com/citroen4x4/
http://www.difflock.com/diffmag/issue19/2cvsahara/index.shtml 

BTW, you know I am writing a paper on the different 4x4 systems. So this
little snail will be in it for sure. But I can't decide if the center diff
is locked or open ?

LAR

-----Message d'origine-----
De : urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] De la part
de j.koenig Envoyé : 16 mars 2007 12:10 À : QSHIPQ at aol.com;
larrycleung at gmail.com; kentmclean at comcast.net Cc : urq at audifans.com;
maxjoyce at ipa.net; quattro at audifans.com Objet : Re: [urq] Info on old school
Quattro Rallye car?

Max, I'm not sure they ever *did* get the throttles to sync up properly,
which may have been part of the problem.  I've fantasized about what one
might be able to do with modern feedback and control electronics, but it's
beyond me!

There is also the story of John Cooper having built a twin-engined Mini.
I'm not sure how
well any of it is documented, but supposedly it nearly claimed his life
while testing on a rain-soaked road course.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: <QSHIPQ at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [urq] Info on old school Quattro Rallye car?

Car and Driver sponsored and wrote up on two of these vehicles:  A  twin
engine civic, and a twin engine VW golf.  The twin engine golf was a  rally
car,
and also competed in Pikes Peak (very fast but DNF).

HTH

Scott J
In a message dated 3/16/2007 6:20:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,
larrycleung at gmail.com writes:
the VW Iitis? or was that just a commercial  off-road vehicle?

On 3/16/07, Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>  wrote:
>
> Max Wellhouse wrote:
> > Listees:  I  remember as a young man reading a foreign car mag article
> > on an  Audi rallye car that had an engine in the back and an engine in
> > the  front and separate shifters for each transmission.  It apparently
>  > kicked butt in whatever events it competed in.  I guess back
>  > then(70's?) it was somewhat of an engineering marvel to get both
>  > throttles to be in sync.
> >
> > Does anyone else recall  this vehicle and have any further info on it?
>
> My faded memory  recalls a twin-engine car, but I think it was a VW,
> not an  Audi.
>
> Googling finds these:
>  http://www.cartorque.co.za/0118.htm
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen (racing beetle)
>  http://www.driversfound.com/scirocco/history/bimotor/
>  http://members.fortunecity.com/wibmerpeter/sahara/sahaeng1.htm  (jetta)
>
> --
> Kent McLean
> '94 100 S Avant,  "Moody" 

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