[urq] UPG 2008

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Martin, we agree!  When I worked the TSD rally at O-fest 99, there  were 26 
cars running, out of 250 at the event.  So the many met up and  hung out during 
that specific activity, but there were activities to do by  choice.  
Steamboat is hanging out with quattro freaks, it's why I put the  event on to begin 
with.  And there is plenty of time to talk, laugh and  make friends, it's what 
makes the event have value to participants.  And we  go to dinners, gather, 
wrench, trek to hot springs, and drive on ice.   Best of both worlds.
 
Ed, what makes Avis better than Hertz is value.  You can go  to any ACNA 
event and hang out (Hertz)!  I see the value in the ur-qfest as  doing something 
exclusive to the spirit and intent of the grand touring car that  made the 
marque.  The pinnacle of the Event can be a Saturday afternoon  Parc Ferme after a 
brisk TSD rally, or the autocross, or the show and  shine.  But I see no 
value in convincing a guy to travel 1000 miles or 2000  miles to just hang out, 
but my point is exactly, he certainly can!  Those  that want to do just that can 
make Saturday, or hang out with the others  during the day.  I see our grand 
touring cars differently.  It's not  that you just own one, it's what you do 
with it that counts.  Make that  have value, you have desire, and 
participation.  
 
And, if you choose to just hang out, neither the active or the passive  
participants are missing out on anything. Win/win for all.
 
I know this works, because I actively organize and work motorsport events,  
and have for a long time.  Participation is optional... Value isn't  optional, 
wherever the venue.  PP didn't detract from a GTG, neither  did Monterey, nor 
migrating to Mosport Park, neither does Steamboat Ice Track  event, heck 
neither does an ACNA track event!
 
I think you guys have this backwards.  Picking your personal  involvement is 
the value to *you*.  The choices of those picks can be much  more valuable to 
all.
 
IMO
 
Scott Justusson
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/23/2007 2:23:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
martin at quattro.ca writes:

Scott,

I have to disagree.. another event like Indy would just  take away from the
purpose of this gathering.
This is why I loved the  events at Felixes.  A nice quiet venue with no one
else around but  Ur-quattro freaks.
One weekend is not a long time, especially if you have  to drive all the
way there.. to piggyback another event is just not worth  it.  I would not
be interested in anything else other than talking  with the guys and
getting to know them as "friends" rather than pay  attention to something
else.

Don't get me wrong, Steamboat etc etc,  those events have their time and
place.  Us CDN guys do the Mosport  weekend for the AMLS jsut to have an
"excuse".  A UPG even should  remain an Ur-q only event with no other
distructions.

Just my $0.02  CDN with is now on par with $0.02 US  :)

Regards
-- 
Martin  Pajak

http://www.quattro.ca


 



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