[urq] Too much Crankcase ventalation?
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Tue Sep 4 22:59:29 EDT 2007
Dave
A proper crankcase>valve cover oil vapor PCV system, won't suck oil, there
shouldn't enough vacuum to do so. IME, oil from launches is a problem innate
to the v8's and S cars with the PCV breather hoses at the back of the head.
PCV pickup and/or vent should be dead center in a cam cover to avoid the hard
launch and hard braking sloshing of oil. The reason for a tie-in of the
crankcase ventilation with the valve cover, is exactly to act as a dead-air oil
return chamber for crankcase oil. IMO, the 5k's with the double walled valve
cover had a better design for PCV than either the later flagship v8's or the
Scar.
Regardless, the urq has the same basic system as the 5k's, without the
problem of oil sloshing. Ben's issue is strictly too much vacuum IMO. To fix the
S-car or v8 problem of oil sloshing in the valve cover, it should be pretty
easy to install a traditional ball type PCV valve and gasket dead center in
the valve cover, with the vent line placed on top too.
SJ
In a message dated 9/4/2007 8:58:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Djdawson2
writes:
I would agree that the noise you are hearing is air being sucked past seals.
Idle = high vacuum = noise. Revs higher = low/no vacuum = no noise.
I guess recirculating crankcase gasses is an option, but I don't see it as a
requirement. A catch-can is an OK solution, but if you use the car
aggressively, it will fill fast.
Even an AAN engine, with its windage tray, will push a very large amount of
oil through the breather system during an aggressive launch. No good.
I don't know if I'd want to make a project out of properly sizing the
breather system. To me, a good solution involves a breather device that allows the
oil to return to the crankcase.
If you've built an engine with serious performance potential in mind, no
matter how good the system works, you're going to be pushing a lot of oil
through it... not just gasses. To me it was only important to properly vent the
crankcase, and return the out of control oil flow back to where it belongs...
the pan.
Unless you redesign around some of the limitations inherent in the stock oil
supply system, I think that a PCV approach will always leave you with oil in
places that you don't want it... FWIW.
Dave
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