[urq] engine mounts wahers and spacers

[Patrick Carlier]

Yes that's right . Engine's rebuild . Head overhauled , valves re-grinded . 
.
All oilseals new . New oil pump . The previuous one was beaten to
death with a hammer by the prevous owner .
The block's sandnblasted and painted .
Almost ready to go back in .

I'm working on the peripherals now . Starter , alternator , pump etc .
I must say that compared to the later audi's , the ur-q alternator
has HUGE bearings , and the overall construction seems to be much
more overengineerd . Build to last a lifetime .

I'll try to upload some pictures  of the various silent block configurations
i've got .

Pat



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis-Alain Richard" <laraa at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Patrick Carlier'" <p.carlier at pandora.be>; <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:17 PM
Subject: RE : [urq] engine mounts wahers and spacers


Hi Pat, did you get to rebuilt the engine yet ? I guess so as you are
installing it in the car...

As for the engine mounts, are the old one solid rubber or liquid filled ?

Anyway, I had to fight with the engine mounts studs as they spun into the
body bracket, but upon removal the sleeves were weld to the body bracket and
stayed there when I punched the studs remnants. My guess is they must be
there to sit the mounts properly, without contact between the mount and the
body bracket. There is some space between the mounts and the brackets.

AS for the top spacers, I compared heights for each mount type, I still have
a solid rubber mount somewhere, and adjusted the total height of both mounts
to be equal (obviously) with some spacers : on the turbo side, there is only
the rubber umbrella, and one spacer on the driver side. That is with 2
hydraulic mounts as they are a bit higher than the solid ones.

This way the engine is off the subframe, but not by much, less than
12 mm from what I can see. The umbrella (and spacer) is about 10 mm thick at
the center aluminum section, but it has a square indent in it to prevent
spinning, so total height is more like 6 mm once installed on top of a
mount.

Send me your pics, I'll take a look at them. Or better, post them somewhere
so everyone can comment.

HTH,

Louis-Alain


 -----Message d'origine-----
> De : urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] De la part
> de Patrick Carlier
> Envoyé : 26 novembre, 2008 12:59
> À : urq at audifans.com
> Objet : [urq] engine mounts wahers and spacers
>
> I'm trying to figure out wich part goes where .
>
> I'm talking about the engine mounts , or maybe I'de better  call them
> silent
> blocks .
> Anyway , it's the two large rubber blocks on wich the engine rests .
>
> Problem is that on both my 1981 ur-q , and a couple of early cq each
> setup is different .
>
> Some have a green or black spacer/washer pressed in .
> It sits between the body and silent block , and lowers it abt 4mm .
> Some have them on both sides , some don't have them at all .
> Obviously , most of them are wrong , but I can't seem to find out wich way
> is right .
> Same story for the washers/spacers on top of the silent blocks .
>
> Etka isn't much help either . The pressed in spacers don't even have a
> partnumber .
>
> Any help appreciated , if possible with pictures .
> I can send pictures of mine if it's of any help .
>
> Pat