[urq] [Es2] Fuel Fitting enigma

Peter Antonic Peter.Antonic at rogerscasey.com
Thu Apr 2 10:36:47 PDT 2009


Ben, I may even have an extra one...will have to check after the weekend
though. I haven't sent your coilovers yet - just realized it was you who
got them, so if I have it, I'll just throw it in the box...

Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Swann [mailto:benswann at verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 12:17 PM
To: Peter Antonic; n-engelbert at terrans.net
Cc: es2 at audifans.com; urq at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [Es2] Fuel Fitting enigma

Perhaps I am missing that hard line - I think I may have given it to a
friend who is doing similar conversion - he got the 7A fuel rail, etc.

Anyone have this line? An extra that is.

Also, was going to check, but it looks like I may be getting the lines
confused.  I had assumed the larger fitting was feed from tank to rail
and smaller to the FPR, but looks like I may have them backwards.  Makes
no difference in my predicament however.

Ben 

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Antonic [mailto:Peter.Antonic at rogerscasey.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 12:41 PM
To: n-engelbert at terrans.net; benswann at verizon.net
Cc: es2 at audifans.com; urq at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [Es2] Fuel Fitting enigma

Ben, I am running 3B intake and 3B fuel rail on my 7A Coupe. Youa re
right, the 2 lines on the Coupe are different size, but, you should be
able to use a 3B line -- the long one that connects to the front of the
rail(feed?), and then 7A line from the hard line on the firewall to the
fuel pressure regulator. From the FPR, you can again use that curvy
little 3B line and connect to the rear of the rail. 

It worked for me. Here's the only picture I have of my engine bay from
some time ago...I can snap a newer one..
http://www.motorgeek.com/phpBB2/gallery2.php/main.php?g2_itemId=65439&g2
_imageViewsIndex=2

HTH
Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Engelbert [mailto:n-engelbert at terrans.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:24 AM
To: Peter Antonic
Subject: [Es2] Fuel Fitting enigma

Peter,

Maybe you can help Ben Swann with this?

Nate

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Subject: [Es2] Fuel Fitting enigma
From:    "Ben Swann" <benswann at verizon.net>
Date:    Thu, April 2, 2009 10:13 am
To:      quattro at audifans.com
         es2 at audifans.com
Cc:      urq at audifans.com
         "'200q20V mailing list'" <200q20v at audifans.com>
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I have searched now for days for what should be a trivial part.  I am
trying to mate fuel rail from 200Q20V to Coupe Q with formerly 7A
engine.  Most of the other Audis all have two fuel connections to and
from the tank that are 14mm X 1.5 "inverted" flare or ball flare.  In
this case however, one line is 16mm x 1.5 same type of fitting.  It is
the type shown  here:
http://web.mit.edu/kcedrone/www/mefi/plumbing_ID.pdf
 but the NUT
is  M16x1.5 thread instead of 14mm.

I was hoping to find a single fitting to minimize connections - a
fitting that would adapt the 16mm fitting to the 14mm line to the fuel
rail.  The fitting would have a 16mm
X1.5 inverted flare (female) on one side and a 14mm x 1.5 male flare  on
the other.

The closest solution I have found so far is a 16mm Female metric with
O-ring to -6 AN.
I'd then have to convert back to 14mm flare using no less than 3
fittings in-between or having to make up a custom line.  None of this
will be as slick or safe as the nice braided SS factory lines with
single adaptor in between.

I looked at many of the good sources that were provided and really not
finding an obvious solution.  There is probably a shop that handles
esoteric Bosch fittings like what I'm looking for.  I must have 100's of
different adaptors in my bins and even one that is close - only it is
14mm female, not 16mm.  Some other adaptors I have are flat-faced or
tube, so don't think this is ideal for a positive seal.

Without going into further details, I'm hoping someone has an ideal
fitting I'm looking for or knows where to get one.

Help!

Ben
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