[urq] [s-cars] Audi Truth in 24

SpotatAshleys spotatashleys at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 29 01:37:37 PDT 2009


Don't forget that had Gp B carried on Audi had that funny little mid engined 
beasty that now languishes in the Ingolstadt museum so I would think given 
their normal total committment, it would have taken over where the road 
going quattros (including S1/S2) left off. I reckon they had it all taped.
There are also a few enigmatic shots in existence of a mid-engined S1 - 
anyone got these and could post them?
I've seen them but don't have them.

Regards

Keith
'87 WR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wylie Bean" <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>
To: "LL - NY" <larrycleung at gmail.com>; <mikellardizabal at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [urq] [s-cars] Audi Truth in 24


> My only thought to add to this is that Audi had the philosophy of staying 
> with a production-based car for Group B while the other manufacturers went 
> to tube-frame mid-engine purpose-built (wow, three hyphenated words in a 
> row) cars for rallye use.  Not to downplay their effectiveness, but it was 
> still Audi that revolutionized the sport, and to do as well as they did 
> for 3 years (remember it came down to Ivory Coast in 82 to determine the 
> driver's title, and Walter barely beat Michele due to her transmission 
> failure, otherwise they'd have won driver and makes titles in 82 as well 
> as 84) with what they were working with still says a lot.  Had they not 
> seen the writing on the wall and pulled out who knows what may have come 
> about in the late 80's.   I think they'd proven the merits of quattro, and 
> were ready to being it to market full scale, so their job was done. 
> Unfortunately the unintended acceleration debacle did more to kill Audi's 
> reputation than quattro had done to make it at the time.
>
> My slightly biased POV...... 8^)
>
>
> Wylie Bean (via blackberry)
> 90 cq
> 91 90q20v
> 92 UrS4
> 08 Q7 3.6P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:56:29
> To: <mikellardizabal at yahoo.com>
> Cc: I.S. Gall<isgall at gmail.com>; <s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com>; Joe 
> Pizzimenti<joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>; <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>; 
> V8List Fans<v8 at audifans.com>; urq list<urq at audifans.com>; Ingo 
> Rautenberg<ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com>; Quattro List<quattro at audifans.com>; 
> <S-car-list at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Audi Truth in 24
>
>
> Don't forget that in World Rally (back in the eighties) their dominance
> lasted all of about 2 seasons (and only one championship) because they had
> the only production based AWD car. As soon as the other companies produced
> similar concept cars, the S1 and S2 quats were kinda done.
>
> And, if Audi feels it can't afford a full LeMans series or ALMS season, 
> they
> don't have the financial stones for F1.  At least, that is my recollection
> on why they've turned this season into a 3 race series (Sebring,
> Magny-Cours(?) and LeMans).  It kinda made if easy for the Piggie-out team
> to do the same. Pretty well, the true Protoype series (I ignore that Bill
> France abominition) seems to be done (again) due to a sucky economy 
> (again).
> Grrrr.
>
> And still haven't watched it yet, but can't wait. The review in Autoweek 
> had
> me stoked over the last month for this program.
>
> LL - NY
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Michael Lardizabal <
> mikellardizabal at yahoo.com> wrote:
> -------------------snip--------------------------
>
>
>>
>> In the end , it still makes me wonder why Audi continues to shy from F1.
>> They always dominate a series once they get involved.  They've got so 
>> much
>> to offer the F1 world, especially if they campaign a TDI 
>> engine.....although
>> I think that might make the most mundane sounding F1 car.
>>
>> ------------------snip-------------------------------
>
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