[urq] how does this happen?

Wed Dec 1 04:33:11 PST 2010

Ed,

Completely agree.
These cars need to be driven, the more you drive the better they run.

Screw cosmetic appearance, as long as you can get it running again and is
structurally and mechanically sound just drive it and enjoy.

Cheers

-- 
Martin Pajak

http://www.quattro.ca

1982 Audi Ur-quattro, SQ project
1983 Audi 80 quattro, Euro 2-Tür
1984 Audi Ur-quattro, The new project 20vt
1987 Audi 4000s quattro, wintervagen mit 7A und 5 bolt :)

> Ed Kellock
> I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed.
>
> I've looked at the quattro badge on the grille of my
> muffler-shop-parking-lot-find 85 urq and thought that it was refreshingly
> one of the few original unmolested bits about it.  I'm somewhat saddened
> to
> learn that it too is yet another "modification", albeit one that would
> only
> offend a concourse judge.  ;-P
>
> Mine is an 85 urq that I bought for 1300 bux in '02, sight UNseen, that
> was
> not running, with fuel injection apart, robust yet not easily reversable
> roll bar installed, nearly every seat seam split, no rad housing, no oil
> cooler/intercooler ducting, no cat, no license plate, fubar window
> regulators, badly peeling/missing clearcoat, leaking power steering,
> completely unknown service history, horribly weather-checked old BFG T/A
> tires, broken horn pad, inoperative horns, and least but not last,
> completelty inop interior lighting, that I drove from Greenville, SC to
> Colorado Springs, CO in late October with nary more than a phone call 3
> days
> previous from a trusted mechanic/friend who said merely "it's running".
>
> Aside from a water-cooled K26 conversion, a full timing belt/water pump
> service and with a scant minimum of repairs and only a modest and very
> recent effort to barely update the suspension with new front struts, strut
> bearings, and control arms, this same car has done round trips from
> Colorado
> Springs to Park City, UT, Glenwood Springs, CO, and Las Vegas, NV (back
> via
> Los Angeles, Flagstaff, and Durango, CO).  Stupidly or otherwise it has
> had
> little more than oil/filter changes, one coolant flush (if you ignore
> several fairly serious coolant leak incidents, thanks to all who put up
> with
> delays and assisted in roadside & parking lot repairs) and new tires.
>
> It wouldn't and still won't probably pass emissions but aside from some
> early (in my ownership) add'l teething pains, it has started and run
> confidently for 8 years and the better part of 7000 miles.  The most
> recent
> and significant journey to the Vegas get together was embarked upon with
> little more than a few miles of use after being parked for two years after
> the Glenwood trip.  It had fresh oil either before or after the two-year
> "rest" and I did not change it before I left for Vegas. (I did do an oil
> change once I arrived in LA)
>
> Though not exactly a testament to my devotion to maintenance in this case,
> it does say something for the true mettle of the urq.  Some may say I've
> been exceptionally fortunate.  I would also offer my experience as a
> contrast to those who won't let one see light of day until everything is
> perfect.
>
> This urq in Tampa is clearly not close to being in turn-key condition.
> There are some who have spent many dollars creating wonderful examples and
> there are some who enjoy sound, reliable daily drivers, with much
> crossover
> in between.  Each and every one that I read about and see in person when
> We
> gather reinforce my enthusiasm.  The urq in Tampa piques my interest
> strongly.
>
> To each their own.  Instead of dismissing the Tampa urq with a LOL, I am
> now
> even more tempted by the opportunity it may represent.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JP Chaplen [mailto:quattrodude at comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:53 PM
> To: Ed Kellock
> Cc: urq at audifans.com; W. Bean; Steve Mills
> Subject: Re: [urq] how does this happen?
>
>
>
> Look at the good things about it, it does have the rings on the front,
> they
> would prob polish up nicely, And note - no Quattro badge like we all found
> out...
>
>
>
> Also has a nice air freshner inside too, and it has a car alarm!!! - with
> upgraded speakers in the door too!
>
>
>
> How can you go wrong?
>
>
>
> LOL
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com>
> To: "Steve Mills" <s.b.mills at gmail.com>
> Cc: urq at audifans.com, "W. Bean" <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:36:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [urq] how does this happen?
>
> My approach would not be to restore it.  I would merely intend to make it
> a
> streetable, viable example.  This would not be something that I would pay
> for, it would be a DIY project.  If it's structurally sound, it could be
> quite fun.  If it could be returned to a good runner, then the value might
> be there many years down the road.  I would not embark upon this with any
> sort of intention to make money off it, just keep it on the road and enjoy
> it.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Mills [mailto:s.b.mills at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:31 PM
> To: Ed Kellock
> Cc: W. Bean; <urq at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: [urq] how does this happen?
>
>
> I hate to see any UrQs sent to the crusher also. We just had a bit of a
> debate on this recently on QW- another eBay listing of an 83 that was in
> worse shape than this appears to be. I inadvertently PO'd the owner by
> describing it as a car that only needed a pair of "Yabba Dabba Doo" shoes
> to
> complete the package. As with that car, the cost to repair this will
> unfortunately exceed the value of the finished car for the foreseeable
> future. And, regardless if the quality if the repair, it will also never
> be
> worth as much as one that never rusted in the first place.
>
> Long way of saying, "Pass". I will cheer loudly from the cheap seats,
> though.
>
> Steve
>
> On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:53 PM, "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> True.  But, I am the type that would not like to see any example be
>> sent to the crusher, especially one that looks this complete.  Even if
>> you have to redo the interior, it could be rectified fairly easily
>> with a donor CGT or even a 4kq.  Extensive rust would be another story
>> altogether.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
>> Behalf Of Steve Mills
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:51 PM
>> To: W. Bean
>> Cc: urq at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: [urq] how does this happen?
>>
>>
>> There is a fine line between brave and crazy. Sadly, there are many
>> better ones available.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:47 AM, "W. Bean" <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> somebody brave going to save it?
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2706697
>>> 1
>>> 3021#v4-33
>>> --
>>> Wylie Bean
>>> TheRingmeister at triad.rr.com
>>> 90 cq
>>> 91 90q20v sport
>>> 92 UrS4
>>> 08 Q7 3.6
>>>
>>>
>>>
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