[urq] Maintaining an old Urq

Tue Jun 22 13:07:26 PDT 2010

Barring unforseen circumstances my car will not be for sale and so its value 
is really of no concern to me. The only time it would be of any concern 
would be if something dreadful happened to it because I would want to a) 
replace it with one just as good (if I could find one) or b) receive some 
recompense for the time, effort, money, blood, sweat, tears (delete as 
apprpriate) invested in it over the years. Apart from that; does it really 
matter?
There will always be what I refer to as benchmark cars out there, ones that 
are completely stock and perfect, and so why not have yours how you want it? 
Keeping it going and enjoying it is the main thing however close to original 
it may be.
Regards all
Keith
'87 WR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dgraber460 at aol.com>
To: <tquattroguy at yahoo.com>; <quattrodude at comcast.net>; <brogers at terrix.com>
Cc: <urq at audifans.com>; <efluhr at austin.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] Maintaining an old Urq

>
> Todd is spot on. If you watch the auctions with any regularity from TV to 
> periodicals such as Hemmings, the pristine cars bringing the big bucks are 
> "almost" ALL restored. Or over-restored by some assessments. Totally 
> original untouched and perfect is _extremely_ rare, and usually heralded 
> as such, and priced accordingly. There is a recent resurgence in value for 
> un-restored "survivor" cars, but only the high end really rare stuff.
> I have been watching a recent cable show called "What's My Car Worth". 
> They have 2 "experts" appraise a car and then take it to the auction block 
> to see what it is _really_ worth. Very interesting process. In their 
> appraisal process they ding a cars value for every little flaw. Barely 
> noticeable swirl marks in the paint knock it down to a 2 on a 1-6 scale 
> requiring a "$15-20k restoration". Even excellent condition original cars 
> need to be "restored" to get the money. With that in mind modify away 
> anything you want that is reversible to stock.
> I also agree with Brandon that these will not be collectibles in my life 
> time. However, I thought the same about the Healey 3000s I drove for 
> years. Now a perfect restored car is $60-70k. Never thought I'd see the 
> day when my old stock '64 SS Impala in "restored" condition will bring 
> over $20k. Not even a convertible!
> Shiny and "restored", or "restored to original" is the order of the day 
> for collectable's.
>
> Dennis
> Denver
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Phenneger <tquattroguy at yahoo.com>
> To: 'JP Chaplen' <quattrodude at comcast.net>; Brandon Rogers 
> <brogers at terrix.com>
> Cc: urq at audifans.com; 'Eric J. Fluhr' <efluhr at austin.rr.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 22, 2010 10:44 am
> Subject: Re: [urq] Maintaining an old Urq
>
>
> I agree almost fully with what Brandon said.  However, recently there has 
> been
> n increased value in older classic cars that are restored with more modern
> quipment so its possible this "100% Original" thing may be changing 
> slowly.
> 00% original will still bring the most dollars in a classic car, but a 
> well
> one, OE Style car that has some nice thoughtful upgrades can still bring 
> good
> oney.
> As for an urq, I'd say, do a 3B conversion if you want, upgrade the 
> brakes, put
> newer head unit in, keep the body mostly original (Euro bumper maybe)  But
> ONT cut the door panels, do any irreversible body or interior mods, etc.
> To "Maintain" your value in a modified car, thats what I would do.
> --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com> wrote:
>> From: Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com>
> Subject: RE: [urq] Maintaining an old Urq
> To: "'JP Chaplen'" <quattrodude at comcast.net>, "'Todd Phenneger'"
> tquattroguy at yahoo.com>
> Cc: urq at audifans.com, "'Eric J. Fluhr'" <efluhr at austin.rr.com>, "'20v 
> list'"
> 20v at audifans.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:47 AM
> It's been re-hashed in different ways
> over the years - but here's my take on
> it.  I personally, unfortunately, don't feel these
> cars will ever achieve
> "collectible" status.  But if they ever do - it will
> be the pristine bone
> stock 100% original cars that will be sought after.
> Problem is those cars
> will be less reliable and quite a bit less fun to own (IMO)
> - if your idea
> of owning is actually driving the car with
> regularity.
>
> Having a reliable (tranny swap aside :-), quick car that
> starts every time
> is valuable to me - and makes me happy.  So that is
> the goal for my car.  Do
> what makes you happy.
>
> Brandon
> '84 ur
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: urq-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com]
> On Behalf
> Of JP Chaplen
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:02 PM
> To: Todd Phenneger
> Cc: urq at audifans.com;
> Eric J. Fluhr; 20v list
> Subject: Re: [urq] Maintaining an old Urq
>
>
>
> So following in your question on maintaining...
>
>
>
> I have been pondering this over the past year or so...I
> have done MANY
> upgrades in various ways over the past years I have owned
> my 83 URQ,
> replacing with new parts when ever possible, upgrading
> lights (i have quad
> HID's hi/lows), all the lights are LED even the dash
> lights. On and on...but
> the question i have and many be impossible to answer,
> should one keep the
> car stock, or are upgrades if of course done right better
> or devalue the
> car?
>
>
>
> I'm not looking for a 400hp+ screamer or anything like
> that, I just want a
> good looking/functional/(gulp) reliable URQ to drive that
> maybe turns a few
> heads here and there. Couple of examples i'm looking at are
> say the
> interior, the leather i have is in great shape for being
> what 28+ years
> old..i only have ONE small wear spot, but its not nice new
> anymore...cost
> who knows but im sure i could easly spend $5K plus or more
> I think to have
> it redone...
>
>
>
> I would like to further the Stereo system too, but do i
> hack up the Original
> panels even if they are professionally done and look better
> than they did
> before?
>
>
>
> Just wondering what people are also doing to preserve or
> maintain their cars
> or make them better than before?
>
>
>
> Sorry I know this is an open ended question...
>
>
>
> JP
>
>
>
> Also let me know if you want any specifics one LEDs all my
> brake/side/marker/interiors are all LEDs...I can Photo if
> you wanna see what
> they look like.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Todd Phenneger" <tquattroguy at yahoo.com>
>
> To: urq at audifans.com,
> "Eric J. Fluhr" <efluhr at austin.rr.com>
>
> Cc: "20v list" <20v at audifans.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:12:12 AM GMT -08:00
> US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [urq] Maintaining an old Urq
>
> I'm CCing the 20v list because I thought they might find
> this good info too.
>
>
> Did some more looking around.
> For 91' CQ it looks like the #24 is a drop in for the 1.2w
> dash bulbs.
> http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2
> Disp=/mini-wedge.html
>
> I may pick some of those up in Red to see what they look
> like.
> As for the C4-A6.  I dont see anything but OTOH that dash
> is pretty good
> from the factory.  I guess I can keep it the same.
>
> What did you use for the urq Dash lights?  You'd need
> something with a
> 360degree pattern I believe to be captured by the
> (Distribution tubes??) in
> the dash.
>
> Thanks
>
> --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Eric J. Fluhr <efluhr at austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Eric J. Fluhr <efluhr at austin.rr.com>
>
> > Subject: [urq] Maintaining an old Urq
> > To: urq at audifans.com
>
> > Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 3:30 PM
> > Urq-folks,
> >
> > FYI, I've been converting my Urq to various LED lights
> a la
> >
> > superbrightleds.com  (I have no affiliation
> > with this site, I've just been happy with their
> > products).  My rear driving
> > and brake lights are terrific now!
> > They have these "tower" style led bulbs that provide
> great
> > lumens,
> > instant-on response, and low current
> > draw to help compensate for the aging wiring in our
> > cars.  My buddies all
> > like the result on my Urq.
> >
> > I've also swapped my blinkers over, but this takes a
> little
> > more work than
> > just replacing the bulbs because
> > of the way Audi wired the dash light (ever noticed
> that the
> > dash hazards
> > behave differently with ignition on
> > versus ignition off...now I know why).
> >
> > I'm now working on replacing other bulbs in the car
> (like
> > the instrument
> > cluster) with some of their other
> > specialty LEDs, and so far I have been very happy with
> the
> > results.
> >
> > Later,
> > Eric
> > '82 urq
> >
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