[urq] Another Urq for sale (and an RS6)

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 I honestly hope to see a modded urq of this condition go for 20large sometime in my 20 years of watching reality!  That said, WRT mods, they don't add value to a low mileage car.  I too have done many mods to urq's, knowing fully that they would make the car drive better, but are not going to reflect a better price.  And that said, IMO/IME, to get full 'original' value-dollar of a low mileage car, mods just don't pay well, if at all.  It's not that anyone 'can' put it back to stock, it's just not stock.  And having said that, I'm still not convinced a bone stock 60k urq would fetch 20k.  I feel I've been well tuned to pricing of urq's for many years, and I'm trying to see your points here.  In my head, possibly that price on a bone stock original paint, pinstriped and fully factory original urq.  I claim right off the bat, the repaint (however nicely it was done) likely killed that, and can't be taken back.

WRT parts needed, it's just not a good selling item at this price point.  You can look at it that's 'all it needs', where others might look at it differently.  A couple of seemingly inconsequential items are missing. Why?  If a seller is looking for full (over the) top dollar price, everything should work and be present, period.  And certainly don't put the missing items in the ad!  Find the original missing parts, at any price, and put the items back where they belong.  A simple ad:  60k urq, excellent to mint condition, needs nothing (underline/caps nothing) = better chance of $20k


For this kind of money, the expectation is just higher than you have put forth Jeff.  A thorough history on what was done, full pics of the car, inside, outside, underside is what this kind of buyer is looking for IMO.  I've represented a couple with that expectation, and the price was more than a couple thousand less than you are asking.  And, in the end, with few urq's on the market right now, you might just toss a ringer to a long history of poor market price performance of an 80's supercar.

A lot of people here are watching, nee hoping, you can actually pull this off.  The realist in me says a lot of ducks need to be lined up exactly right for that to happen.  

Best of luck to you

Scott J


 

-----Original Message-----
From: javadog at att.net
To: urq at audifans.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: [urq] Another Urq for sale (and an RS6)


I originally sent this out about an hour ago and it seems to have disappeared 
into a hole in the internet.  So, in case nobody else got it either, I'm 
resending it...

"Scott,

Thanks for the comments.  I'll address a couple of them, if I may.  I'm not sure 
what my "$30k RS6 ad" has to do with anything.  I have thrown an ad for the car 
onto Audifans.com , although the price wasn't $30k, so I guess maybe that was a 
typo.  Anyway, I'm not sure what one has to do with the other.

I am not using this forum, or any of the Audi forums, as a primary vehicle to 
sell either car.  I realize that the chances of selling either of them to the 
guys reading this list are close to zero.  Having said that, people have 
contacted me off-list in the past expressing some interest, so I told them then 
that I would let the list know when I was ready to sell either car, which I have 
done.

Now, about the car.  If you have the visor clips, or the radio memory button, 
I'd be happy to buy them from you.  I am supposedly on the list to receive the 
visor clips, if they ever come to market.   I haven't heard anything on that 
front in a while, although I periodically ask about them.  Same with the memory 
button; I have posted inquiries here and in other places looking for one.  So 
far, no joy.  This car has the original radio and not many of those exist 
anymore.  Look at it another way, if that's all the car needs, that ain't bad 
for an urq....

With regard to the modifications, I have to differ with you.  I don't ordinarily 
like modified cars but a bone stock US quattro can be a pretty miserable car to 
drive.  No power at low revs, a fairly abrupt transition when the boost builds, 
then no top end.  It sort of reminds me of the narrow power bands some of my old 
two-stroke motorcylces had, way back in the "good old days."  On the highway, 
it's not much of an issue but in city driving, it gets old quick.  The two 
changes I made help fill in the hole at the bottom end, give a softer transition 
from of-boost to on-boost and help raise the torque curve at higfher rpm's.  It 
simply makes the car a lot nicer to drive, without taking away from the 
longevity, or reliability.  If the new owner wants to put it back to stock, 
that's fine with me.  It's not hard.

I agree that this crowd can be a little tough on these cars.  The people in the 
Audi club also can have a little "different" perspective on them.  I remember 
when I showed this car one year at the Beddor Nationals.  During the day, I had 
nothing much to do, so I worked on detailing the car a little bit.  More than 
one guy stopped by and wondered why anyone would do that to a car...  I guess if 
I was trying to say anything is that sometimes this crowd is a little too 
pessimistic about these cars.  I've owned a lot of collectible cars over the 
years, in all sorts of price ranges, and these cars deserve a little more 
respect than some of their owners give them.

Cheers,
Jeff"
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