[urq] Bad starter?

[Thatcher Hubbard]

I don't think so, and I really can't see how it could have.  My oil looks
clean, and so does my coolant, the car hasn't been overheated, and really,
it's only got like 5k on it since I did a full top end as part of my EFI
swap.

I finally crawled under the car and put a multimeter on a couple of bolts
while my wife cycled the ignition.  Per the Haynes manual, I started with
the '50' terminal on the starter solenoid.  I only got about 2.8V on that,
and about the same on the field winding terminal.  This suggests maybe the
ignition switch?  I guess I need to see what sort of voltage I'm getting
directly from the battery as well.  I need to drop the turbo oil cooler so
I can get at it a little easier.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM, <laraa at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> The engine is not seized, isn't it ?
>
> Louis-Alain
>
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> Well, it's not the starter or the battery, both of which have now been
> replaced.  Man, getting a starter out of this car is a crappy job.
>
> I'm out of ideas.  I hear a very definite click under the hood, which I
> presume to be the starter solenoid.  I guess I'll have to crawl under there
> with a multi-meter and have my wife cycle the ignition.  Clearly, I should
> have done this first.
>
> I don't really mind having the old starter out though.  The thing was
> falling apart.
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:10 AM, audiqtrocp <audiqtrocp at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a brand new $180 starter sitting on my shelf because I denied the
> > fact that 'it could have been a bad battery already'.
> >
> > In Seattle you guys dont have the extremes in weather that we do in Vegas
> > but assume the battery until you prove it's not.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone for, the one with the bigger Gee Bee's
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2011, at 12:28, "Patrick Carlier" <p.carlier at pandora.be>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Most likely the brushes in the starter are worn and or stuck .
> > > Symptomes are you can hear the starter relais click but
> > > the motor doesn't engage .
> > >
> > > Sometimes "gently"  tapping the starter with a hammer will revive it .
> > > Only  for a very limited period of time , but when you're stuck in the
> > > middle of nowhere it's worth trying . Take the gently with a grain of
> > salt .
> > > Sometimes you'll have to hit it pretty hard .
> > >
> > > The real fix is to take it apart and replace the brushes .
> > > And if possible give the rotor a pass on the lathe  to clean up
> > > the collector . It's an easy thing to do , and a brushes kit will
> > > cost about 40€ ( 60usd approx )
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Pat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thatcher Hubbard" <
> > thatcher.hubbard at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Urq List" <urq at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:01 PM
> > > Subject: [urq] Bad starter?
> > >
> > >
> > >> It got down into the 30's for the first time here in Seattle last
> night.
> > >> This morning, I get nothing but clicking when I try to start the
> > quattro.
> > >>
> > >> The alternator was done last year, and was showing an excellent 14.3V
> > >> between terminals after the replacement.  I have not pulled the back
> > seat up
> > >> yet to make sure the battery is truly good, but all the lights are
> > strong.
> > >> I will pull the seat and do a battery check before I do anything, but
> it
> > >> seems like this might be the starter?
> > >>
> > >> I get a click from under the dash (ignition relay?) and a louder click
> > from
> > >> under the hood.  I'm quite sure the starter in the car is the
> original,
> > so
> > >> if it is dead, it made it almost 30 years, not a bad run.
> > >>
> > >> Just wanted a second opinion and some BTDT from the list before I go
> > >> ordering a new starter motor.
> > >>
> > >> As always, thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Thatcher Hubbard
> > >> Seattle, WA
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