[V6-12v] RE: V6-12v Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1

Sun Apr 3 17:30:13 EDT 2005

My apologies to anyone who felt slighted in the least -- Audi drivers 
as a whole are generally more knowledgeable, insightful and aware of 
their driving than the typical driver I seem to find on the roads in my 
area. I meant no disrespect to anyone, and my commentary was more a 
notice of the differences in advertising on the part of the 
manufacturers when it comes to the US Market than some inherent lack of 
intelligence on the part of the public. Again, my apologies.

Cheers
=-= Marc

On Sunday, April 3, 2005, at 03:19 PM, Clive Young wrote:

> Hi Marc.....
>
> some good points but lets be carefull out there....
>
> "Some people" instead of "Many Americans" would have done nicely. We 
> have a really good International group here and I would hate to see 
> peoples feelings start to get hurt as it can go down rapidly from 
> there.
>
> All the best Marc.
>
> Clive
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "The CyberPoet" 
> <thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net>
> To: "Roger M. Woodbury" <rmwoodbury at downeast.net>
> Cc: <v6-12v at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [V6-12v] RE: V6-12v Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1
>
>
>> "driving lights" and "fog lights" are not one and the same, although 
>> it would appear that many Americans don't appreciate the differences 
>> between the two (and the differences in focal lengths, beam patterns, 
>> etc). Driving lights won't blind anyone else unless there is ice on 
>> the road to cast the light back up, instead offering long thin beams 
>> on the road surface; fog lights do exactly the opposite, generating 
>> wide area lighting.
>>
>> Cheers
>> =-= Marc
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2005, at 09:37 PM, Roger M. Woodbury wrote:
>>
>>> The beauty of European headlights is the fine cut off of the low 
>>> beam. By
>>> focusing the low beam light on the road in front of the vehicle with 
>>> the
>>> sharp cut off, most of the light produced is on the road, and the 15 
>>> degree
>>> uprise on the right, illuminates the edge of the road.  High beam 
>>> provides a
>>> huge amount of light, and makes auxiliary lighting superfluous.
>>>
>>> Here in rural Maine we see an awful lot of Subarus that have factory 
>>> mounted
>>> "fog" lights, as well as other vehicles that have these things.  
>>> They are
>>> dangerous in that they merely provide more unfocussed light.  Since 
>>> most
>>> people don't know how to use fog lights or what fog lights are 
>>> supposed to
>>> do, and since most OEM headlights are so poor, they crank the fog 
>>> lights on
>>> and run around that way.  They are at best annoying and at worst, 
>>> dangerous
>>> to oncoming drivers.
>>>
>>> I think the worst headlights in the US industry right now are on GM
>>> products.  While I haven't driven any new GM product in several 
>>> years, the
>>> headlights in my Chevrolet 1ton dually 4X4 are so bad that I run 
>>> high beams
>>> most of the time, and forget their on.  Poor beam patter, and lousy 
>>> output.
>>> I am thinking of mounting some driving lights to go along with them. 
>>>  If I
>>> do, they will be something like Cibie 175's, separately switched and 
>>> relayed
>>> for use with the high beams only.  Low beams are fine for in town 
>>> and slow
>>> speed.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: The CyberPoet [mailto:thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 5:47 PM
>>> To: Roger M. Woodbury
>>> Cc: v6-12v at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [V6-12v] RE: V6-12v Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1
>>>
>>> If the wife has night-vision issues, as does my fiancee, add more
>>> lights, specifically low-mounted driving lights designed to 
>>> illuminate
>>> the road surface to a far-out distance without blinding other 
>>> drivers.
>>> Hella makes supreme examples of these using 130 watt bulbs, but you 
>>> can
>>> find cheaper alternatives out there as well. As a motorcyclist (as 
>>> well
>>> as an Audi owner), I implore you to anything necessary to give her 
>>> all
>>> the safety advantages she can have (if she wears glasses or contacts
>>> while driving, talk to the optomotrist about her night-vision; they
>>> have special processes for the coatings that will improve the 
>>> contrast
>>> for night vision/driving).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> =-= Marc Glasgow
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2005, at 05:10 PM, Roger M. Woodbury wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  We have E-code headlights in my wife's 100CS Avant Quattro.  She
>>>> needs the
>>>> best lighting possible as she is less comfortable driving at night
>>>> than she
>>>> used to be.  She finds the headlights to be amazingly better than 
>>>> the
>>>> OEM US
>>>> lights, and basically, so do I.
>>>>
>>>> What I have noticed from these headlights is that they have a dark
>>>> patch on
>>>> high beams about 100 feet or so out in front of the car, although 
>>>> the
>>>> total
>>>> illumination is outstanding.
>>>>
>>>> I had European headlights in both my Audi V8 (now dearly departed!),
>>>> and in
>>>> the '89 200 Quattro Avant that I had before we bought the 100CS.  By
>>>> far the
>>>> best combination of lighting was in either the 200 or the V8.  Of 
>>>> the
>>>> two,
>>>> probably the V8's were a bit better.
>>>>
>>>> The 200 lamps came from Blaufernugen, and had "standard" bulbs with 
>>>> all
>>>> bulbs relayed.  The V8's lamps came from the Fatherland and were
>>>> slightly
>>>> used.  But they came with 130v. high beam bulbs, and the difference
>>>> between
>>>> the H4 low beam side which was "standard"wattage, and the highbeams
>>>> qugmented by the 130V H3 bulbs was astounding.
>>>>
>>>> I am about to put my "new" daily driver on the road....a refurbished
>>>> 200
>>>> 20Valve Avant, and that car has standard oem headlights which have
>>>> relays
>>>> installed. The headlights were not terrible on the trip to Maine 
>>>> from
>>>> Washington DC when I bought the car, but I will eventually put 
>>>> European
>>>> headlamps in it, and the high beam bulbs will be 130Volt, with all
>>>> bulbs
>>>> relayed.
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>>
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