[V6-12v] V6-12v Digest, Vol 75, Issue 1
Austin Franklin
austin.franklin at charter.net
Sun Jul 18 08:59:40 PDT 2010
Hi All,
I found this, and this is why I believe it can be done as outlined here:
http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/thread.jspa?threadID=37307
so, I bought the adapter (ReStockIt.com for something like $5) and a can of
R-134a with that has a gauge on it. And, tried, as they outlined, to
recharge the low side.
If you read the Bentley manual, they do show that the dealer will install an
"adapter" on the low side of the compressor to fill the system. Subsequent
years did have the low side fitting for filling. And, I do believe the
manual says to fill from the low side. But, perhaps I should go back and
read it again.
Regards,
Austin
-----Original Message-----
From: Casimiro Izquierdo [mailto:caig01 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:52 AM
To: Jonathan; Austin Franklin
Cc: v6-12v at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V6-12v] V6-12v Digest, Vol 75, Issue 1
I am not sure where the A4s have the fill valve, in my S90 it was in the
front. As one who tried for years to fill my system, unsuccessfully I may
add, this system does indeed charge from the high pressure side. The
problem with this is that the connection is different and the cans that are
sold do not have enough pressure to push the coolant into the system.
I did not want to pay dealer prices for filling the a/c and none of the
other mechanics that I consulted could find an answer to the filling
dilemma. I have all kinds of christmas tree valving connections and
connectors and none helped.
I hope you have better luck than I did.
cai
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From: Jonathan <jhhummel at bigpond.com>
To: Austin Franklin <austin.franklin at charter.net>
Cc: v6-12v at audifans.com
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 4:38:56 AM
Subject: Re: [V6-12v] V6-12v Digest, Vol 75, Issue 1
Hi Austin,
The aircon in these cars recharge differently to most car air cons.
I'm a little sketchy on the details, so give me some leaway here.
I think most cars, you recharge them from the low side.
Where as on these cars i think they have a high side reserviour (i think
that
is what they are called).
Anyway, it means you need to recharge it differently to normal. Whan I had
mine
rechanrged, it caused the guy a few problems until he worked that out. (He
thought the car was full as well)
I would say, if you have the compressor fully engaged (ie on LO) then the
temp
in the out flow centre vent should be around 6degC
A little confused with which lines you can feel getting cold. Forgive me
if
you already know, but to make sure we're all on the same page, the
follwoing
steps is how an air con works.
A gas is compressed into a liquid, making it hot.
The hot liquid is them cooled (via a radiator to air temp)
This ambient temp liquid is then allowed to expand, reducing the pressure
casuing the liquid to boild an turn back into a gas. This makes it cold.
The cold gas is then used to cool what every you want, and then fed back
into
the compressor.
So, thecold parts should be the same pressure as the input to the
compressor,
and the hot parts should be the direct output of the compressor.
The part where you put the gas in, is just behund the firewall up the back
of
the engine bay. I thinki it is about two feet in from the RHS of the car.
Cheers
Jon
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 02:46:25 am Austin Franklin wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> I checked the compressor was fully on by setting the temp to "LO". I
have
> the low side pressure switch removed to use an adapter on the connection
to
> charge the system. I have the two connections on the cable/connector
> jumpered with a paperclip. If I remove the paperclip, the compressor
> clicks off. If I install the paperclip, I hear the click, and the
> compressor turns on. At least I am believing the compressor is turning
> on/off because of the loud click from the area where the compressor is.
>
> The low side pressure, according to the gauge on the can, is just
slightly
> above the acceptable range, which is why I'm believing the system is
fully
> charged. I don't want to overcharge it.
>
> I can feel the high side line get cold, but not the low side line.
>
> I don't know enough more about this system to debug it though, and I
guess
> I'll need to learn it.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Austin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan [mailto:jhhummel at bigpond.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:37 PM
> > To: v6-12v at audifans.com
> > Cc: austin.franklin at charter.net
> > Subject: Re: V6-12v Digest, Vol 75, Issue 1
> >
> >
> > Hi Austin,
> >
> > THere is meant to be a temperature difference between the outside
> > vents and
> > centre vents. I can't remember the exact reason for this, it is
> > either for
> > better temperature control or stuffiness in the car, OR it is to
> > prevent the
> > side windows fogging up. Eitherway, that part of your car is fine.
> >
> > I had similar issues, and that was because it needed recharging. The
main
> > symptom was that the compressor turned off (relatively) quickly
> > but you said
> > that was good. How did you check by the way?
> >
> > In the centre console, there is a small vent looking thing in the
> > middle of
> > it, between the radio and temperature controls. That is acutallu
> > a vent. If
> > you rempve the cover, there should be a small rubber tube which
> > disapears into
> > the car for a bit. It terminates with a small fan and thermistor.
> > I've found
> > that tube tends to detach easily. Check the fan and the tube.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:11:41 -0400
> > > From: "Austin Franklin" <austin.franklin at charter.net>
> > > Subject: [V6-12v] A4 air conditioning...
> > > To: <v6-12v at audifans.com>
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The AC in my 1996 A4 blows not so cold. Interestingly enough,
> >
> > it blows a
> >
> > > bit cold in the middle two vents, but not cold at all on the
> >
> > two side ones.
> >
> > > I checked the A/C charge, and it seems to be good. The compressor
does
> > > cycle on/off, as I tested it with the pressure switch.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Austin
> > >
> > >
> > >
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