[V8] Fw: UFO Brake Conversion

David Head v8q at bellsouth.net
Thu Apr 29 20:50:11 EDT 2004


90-120mph works fine. Make sure no one is trailing...  :-)

William Gutierrez wrote:

> Fair enough.  I guess I based my opinion on my experience of going 
> through 3 sets of new rotors over the first 120,000 miles on the car 
> because the local dealer and my local shop reported that everyone was 
> having these problems (which is why Audi started doing the swap for 
> free) and there was nothing that could be done to turn the rotor.  
> I'ld like to know what speed Keith was doing his "Italian Tuneups" 
> from, but hard stops from 60 mph weren't doing it for me.  If I hadn't 
> had all the problems with my UFOs, I probably would not have switched 
> them out, because they did stop the car well when they weren't straight.
>
> Your point on BIRA is well taken, David, but isn't there still some 
> shop affiliated with BIRA that will sell the whole package and thus 
> enable the purchaser to avoid the liability limiting subterfuge of BIRA?
>
> Bill
>
>> From: "Coleman, David" <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
>> To: "William Gutierrez" <lundabo at msn.com>, 
>> <baumanns at baldwin-telecom.net>,   <v8 at audifans.com>
>> Subject: RE: [V8] Fw: UFO Brake Conversion
>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:17 -0400
>>
>> > Whatever merits the UFO's had when new and in good condition,
>> > were lost when
>> > they warped, which they always did.
>>
>> Respectfully, perhaps yours "always" did, but "never" is in fact the 
>> appropriate term for my experience.  I think you're overgeneralizing 
>> something too subjective -- driving technique, conditions, and 
>> geography.  Maybe more conducive to European roads, UFOs in the US 
>> were a defeat snatched from the hands of victory.  The majority of 
>> drivers here don't have the intimate communication with the car that 
>> UFOs were designed to incorporate.  Not to get all zen or whatever.
>>
>> That said, I agree completely re: BIRA setup.  I ditched my dogcrap 
>> G60s for their 996-equipped System 3 and I saw a drastic difference, 
>> in every circumstance from traffic jams to threshold braking.  Scott, 
>> I'd gladly give you my old G60 calipers, but one caveat of converting 
>> to BIRA is you can't sell the car or equipment without the buyer 
>> joining the association.  So I keep these nasty paperweights bonking 
>> around my garage just in case.
>>
>> I last heard Audiconnection's Wilwood application has been shelved -- 
>> probably due to Wilwood's temperamental street-use.  Dunno.
>>
>> -DaveC.
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