[V8] Intake/supercharger
Jeremy Ward
jward at mti-interactive.com
Thu Jul 22 13:56:53 EDT 2004
This guy dropped a V8 into his 200 and replaced the factory airbox with
the following:
http://www.audiv8.com/forum/files/58594-Audi%20200%2020V%20139.jpg
http://www.audi-vw-freunde.de/27727/44598.html
You could always borrow the R8 setup:
http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/travel_events/alms2/lms2_2.htm
http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/travel_events/alms2/lms2_3.htm
BTW, TFA lists the need parts as "NOT A SPARE PART"
Or perhaps the DTM V8 setup:
http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/travel_events/M99/MH99V8.html
http://www.qsz.com.au/news8.htm
You may need a larger MAF capable of metering more air... I wonder what
motronic would think about the higher signal...
Hey Justin... Didn't you use a Mercedes SC on your V8 for a school
project? Care to share info on pulley placement, air routing, etc?
Regards,
- Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
Of Buchholz, Steven
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:28 AM
To: V8 List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [V8] Intake/supercharger
... the project I was discussing on the phone involved retaining the
Ford's
intercooler setup ... seems to me that approach might allow you to use
the
factory lower IM. The thing is that the engine on my bench still has
the
upper and lower IM in place, so I am not sure about whether or not it
would
be practical to mount the blower above the factory lower IM. Perhaps it
would make sense to attach the blower to the *upper* IM ... it is mostly
just a plenum after all ... if that would make any sense then you could
possibly retain the Audi MAF ... and then pull the "elbow" piece that
feeds
the TBs and replace it with something to accept the inlet from the
intercooler. Funny, this almost sounds as funky as the guy wanting to
drop
a carb on his car ... ;-)
As to the subject of auto adjusting ... sure, the engine will try to use
the
OXS feedback mechanism on the fuel side, but there would be no
compensation
in the ignition circuit. I've got to believe that you will need to have
a
way to tweak the timing based on the manifold pressure. I guess that
means
that we might be talking about tossing the factory control out the
window
completely ...
Steve B
San Jose, CA (USA)
>
> > especially to this scale. We'd need to have some custom
> > castings made for
> > the intake manifold wouldn't we?
>
> Having a blower unit to physically hold up to the V8's IM
> would make it clear whether one could use the bottom half of
> an OE manifold or would need to have 8 individual runners
> built. Race-oriented machine/fabrication shops would be my
> first place to look, once a sketch is created. There's a
> couple here in DE. Thinking back, I was curious as to what
> would happen to the MAF...
>
> > What parts would
> > we need from the donor Ford?
>
> The whole dang car would be ideal; but I wouldn't think much
> more than the blower, pulley, IM, and plumbing to get
> started... fuel injectors would be handy. Maybe the intake
> and exhaust manifold/header, just for observational purposes.
>
>
> > to mess with the engine control parameters in the ECU.
>
> I sort of wonder if the ECU would self-adjust. Bigger
> injectors may be necessary to keep up with the air, though a
> rising-rate fuel pressure regulator might serve enough purpose.
>
> I think I'll slip outta here an hour early today and hit the
> local yards again...
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