[V8] 1990 V8Q 150,000

Michael Larosa Jr Mc.Larosa at Sun.COM
Wed Nov 10 07:59:50 EST 2004 

Hate to rain on anybodies parade......  but it's just like any of our other
beloved Audi's.  When they run, they are a great car to drive.... but in the
22 month's we owned ours it was in the shop for 57 days.  this is excessive
even for an Audi ;)


It was all Electrical issue's.

First was the top wouldn't move with the switch,had to use the key in the driver
side lock. It would get stuck up and sometimes down, one time halfway up it
stopped...  I had to keep switching the key off/on in the ignotion and the key
lock and it finally went up...

This put it in the shop for 43 days. After replacing a module under the console
and fixing a wiring harness problem it was still intermittent.  Final fix was a
new dashboard cluster.  Dealer gave us a loaner during this, after 40 days of
nope the parts not in yet, they asked for the loaner back....  when I asked
great the car is fixed ?  well.... uuummm, no....  but we need the loaner back.

uuummm,  no I don't think so.  When the car is fixed i'll give the loaner back.

They called the next day,  car is done.  They must have swapped a cluster from
another car. They could of done this 42 days ago... oye...

Second was the ignition coil pack. flatbedded to the dealer.

Third,  Another computer hickup where when my wife hit the right turn signal the
seat moved forward.   nice.... The radio, alarm, windows and who knows what else
also died... but it still drove...  it dumped 60 codes,  flatbedded it after
arguing with the service manager who wanted me to drive it.  I said if you fax
me a letter to my house stating you'll be responsiable if the car does something
else weird and I get in accident on the way there then sure, i'll drive it.
Flatbed was their in a couple of hours.... dealer reset the computer and said
let us know if it does it again.

It did, they replaced a computer.


Being an Audi I expected to have some issue's and that Audi would stand behind
the car and fix it all.  At $47k and change I expected good service and support.


Apparently Audi has decided they can skip the good service part.  Over the last
year they know want to charge me for rentals when their car needs to be
flatbedded for a warranty issue,  they won't change wiper blades, balance tires
or rotate them either under the 4yr/50k maintenance agreement.

They did all this for ther first year,  know, it's screw you....

At this point we where ready to trade it for a 4 door anyway, kids don't fit in
the back anymore :)

The sales guy at Nashua Audi was talking 31-32 for trade in and "aggressive"
pricing on a a4 quattro sedan.

I had a long talk with the service manager, expressing my displeasure and what
can I expect in the future....  I might as well have been talking to the wall.

Decided I'm done with german cars,  the "drive" no longer outweighs the hassle
of support...  we traded it on a Lexus GS430.  It gots 4 doors, real comfy, goes
like stink, but don't tell the wife :)

So, if you come accross a 03 A4 cab, silver/black with a small dimple on the
passenger rear fender lip.  Beware.  It's fraught with electrical issues.

YMMV,

Mike,
ex Audi 100, 100 avant, 90 V8, 91 V8, 92 100, 03 A4 Cab

Marc Ballandras wrote:
> yes
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Larosa Jr" <Mc.Larosa at Sun.COM>
> To: "bob moy" <mmodels at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <v8 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [V8] 1990 V8Q 150,000
> 
> 
> 
>>uuummmm,  would anybody like to hear my experiences with an A4 Cabriolet ?
>>
>>Mike,
>>
>>
>>
>>bob moy wrote:
>>
>>>Dealers as Steve have pointed out don't gives a rat ass about your
> 
> trade-in,
> 
>>>especially if it is a 14 year old car.  By giving you $1300 for your
> 
> car,
> 
>>>only means that they are less willing to go down on the price.  In
> 
> reality
> 
>>>you have just given them your car for nothing.
>>>
>>>Try selling it or donating it to charity.  Tell the dealer that you
> 
> decided
> 
>>>to donate the car and ask them how far down will they go on the price
>>>without a trade in, if they really want to make a deal they should be
>>>willing to drop at least $500 off on a A4.  Most of the time I find that
> 
> if
> 
>>>the dealers think that I'm about to walk then, they are more willing to
>>>deal.
>>>
>>>If it was me I would just keep the old girl as a winter beater and save
> 
> the
> 
>>>A4 for spring, summer and fall driving. A ragtop is not my ideal car for
>>>winter driving
>>>
>>>Bob M
>>>
>>>
>>>[V8] 1990 V8Q 150,000
>>>Buchholz, Steven Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com
>>>Tue Nov 9 12:50:32 EST 2004
>>>
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>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> ------
> 
>>>... dealers are dealers ... an Audi dealer couldn't care less if you
>>>were trading in a Datsun F310 or their 1990 flagship model ... all
>>>they're going to give you is blue book.  Probably all you'll be able to
>>>do is to check Edmunds and KBB yourself to see what they give for "trade
>>>in" value for the car and pick the one that is the highest.  If you want
>>>to get more for your car you'll have to sell it yourself ...
>>>
>>>Steve B
>>>San Jose, CA (USA)
>>>
>>>
>>>>My time as a V8Q owner may be coming to an end. I am condidering buying
> 
> an
> 
>>>>A4 cabriolet and trading in the old lady. However, the dealer is
>>>>'generously' offering me $1300, and I would like some feedback from the
>>>>list if anyone has a second.
>>>>
>>>>The details are: 150,000 miles with new transmission at 100,000 (don't
> 
> have
> 
>>>>proof for this unfortunately), new timing belt at 120,000, interior in
> 
> very
> 
>>>>good shape, kenwood stereo, small dent and scrathes on outside, tires
> 
> have
> 
>>>>about 8,000 miles, some issues with rolling up and down passenger
> 
> windows.
> 
>>>>Other than that it drives pretty well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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