[V8] Gas hog V8s

Wed Aug 31 23:45:06 EDT 2005

My 91 V8 costs more to insure than my 98 explorer. Both have the same (nice)
policy, and the explorer is the top-o-the-line Edward deBauer model. For some
odd reason, I have not had a speeding ticket or claim that was my fault for a
very long time. (perhaps the 1984 vintage Escort has something to do with it.
That thing still works great :-)
It seems all my Audis have been expensive to insure.

dave

Quoting Greg Furstenwerth <slicerdicer at comcast.net>:

> I have to speak on the insurance matter the V8 has a lower insurance
> overall compared to the 84 4000s that I owned.
>
> DieMarthaDie at aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> >you left off a couple of things Mike:
> >
> >Insurance on the V8 may be higher than some cars (but with airbags and  ABS
> >you get a discount) but I bet insurance (full coverage required with a car
> >loan) on an Aveo is a lot higher!  I wonder how an Aveo fares in real  snow,
> or
> >rain, or... an accident.
> >
> >oh, and even if the payments, insurance and other actuarial tables went in
> >it's favor... at the end of the day you'd be driving an Aveo.
> >
> >John
> >
> >PS - My adventure is in the driveway with a seized caliper and I'd still
> >take it over an Aveo.
> >
> >______________________________________________________
> >With fuel approaching $3.00 per gallon, just out of curiosity, I ran
> >some interesting numbers.
> >
> >Starting premises -
> >
> >1)V8Q gets about  16mpg.
> >
> >2) CNN/Money had a list of cars you can buy with payments of under
> >$200/mo (sometimes just under), real exciting stuff like Cavalier,
> >Neon,  Aveo, etc, mostly stripped, and you couldn't get A/C in one of
> >them if you  wanted to stay under $200/mo, and I'm guessing the fuel
> >economy of these  cars is going to be 35 mpg? Which may be generous . . .
> >
> >Anyway  -
> >
> >Fuel costs for V8Q - 16 mpg with $3.00 gas is a bit under 20 cents a
> >mile, fuel costs for 35 mpg is abut 8.5 cents a mile.
> >
> >V8Q, 1,000  miles, $200 in fuel, 2,000 miles, $400 in fuel, 3,000
> >miles, $600 in fuel,  4,000 miles, $800 in fuel.
> >Aveo (etc.),  1,000 miles, $85 in fuel, 2,000  miles, $170 in fuel,
> >3,000 miles, $255 in fuel, 4,000 miles, $340 in  fuel.
> >
> >Now we add the payment of $200 a month vs the Audi, which is free  and
> clear.
> >
> >Audi cost - 1,000 miles = $200, 2,000 miles = $400, 3,000  miles =
> >$600, 4,000 miles = $800.
> >Aveo cost - 1,000 miles = $285, 2,000  miles = $370, 3,000 miles =
> >$455, 4,000 miles = $540.
> >
> >The break-even  point in mileage is therefore about 1,800 miles a
> >month, which is about  21,600 miles a year, at which point the
> >strictly fuel plus payment costs are  about even.
> >
> >But there is *much* more than that - there is capital cost  and
> >opportunity cost on the Aveo, there is depreciation (which Audi
> >owners are VERY familiar with - but OUR cars are already just about
> >fully depreciated), and then there are the intangibles - safety,
> >ride,  performance, comfort, support from THIS group, and so forth.
> >
> >Basically,  I'll want to see a lot more than numbers like the above
> >before I get rid of  my V8Q. Personally, I drive about 1,000 miles a
> >month, so why the heck  should I pay more money to drive a
> >significantly lesser car? Besides, I HATE  car payments, and I don't
> >ever want to have one again, as long as I live.  That alone is worth
> >something, and if part of the price of that is crawling  under the car
> >and getting dirty, hot and sweaty once in a while, well, I can  take a
> >shower for a lot less than $200.
> >
> >Now, if we want to buy a NICE  car, I've seen leases offered on entry
> >level WMBs (ugh) for $400 a month  (after cap cost fees, tag, tax,
> >title, blah, blah blah) and after 36 months  you have to give it back
> >- this is essentially just a long-term rental, and  you still have to
> >buy fuel. No thanks, I'm keeping my V8.
> >
> >Best  Regards,
> >
> >Mike Arman
> >90 V8, not just a car, an  ADVENTURE!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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