[V8] Still Freezing my Feet off...
bob moy
mmodels at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 24 14:23:09 EST 2005
The following is from chris Miler's website
http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/ check the motor which controls the
Temperature regulating flap.
Temperature regulating flap
The climate controller head regulates temperature by cycling the air
conditioning compressor on and off (unless set to "off" or "econ"); by
turning the flow of hot engine coolant to the heat exchanger core on and off
via a valve located behind the engine head on the firewall; by closing the
recirculate flap behind the glove box; and by controlling airflow using a
temperature regulating flap. The flap is located under the hood, beneath the
black plastic plenum on the firewall.
The climate control head controls an electric motor with a feedback circuit
that tells the control head the flap position. I've found that if the
electrical connection to this motor degrades, the climate control head
cannot properly control the flap positions. You'll notice this when you get
too much heat, or no heat at all. Run the climate control diagnostics
(below) for details.
This motor has an audi part number of 443 820 511 A (Bosch 0 132 801 003)
and runs around $70.
The fix involves either replacing the temperature regulating flap motor, or
using electrical contact enhancer to improve the connection at the harness
under the plenum.
Start by opening the hood, and removing the windshield washer arms (pull the
protective caps, remove the 10mm nuts, mark the position of each wiper arm
on the windshield, then bend each wiper at the joint and pull them off.
Remove the couple screws holding the wiper assembly in place, and set it
aside. (This gives you enough room to work, and only takes a minute to
remove.)
This is a good oportunity to pull out the shop vac and remove all the dead
leaves, small animal nests, and years of dust and debris. You'll need to
make up a small diameter extension to get down into the bowels of the
system; I used a paper towel roll cardboard.
Lube the moving parts/joints for the flaps. The motor is located on the
driver's side of the blower box, above the glove box area. Follow the wiring
back along the engine compartment wall; unsnap the connector, and use a good
contact enhancer/cleaner; then reconnect. Now, start up the car, and run the
climate control through the various settings and temperatures to make sure
everything moves smoothly.
[V8] Still Freezing my Feet off...
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Mon Jan 24 10:35:20 EST 2005
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So I think I've got a problem with the replaced heater-core, flaps,
temp-sensors or controller mechanisms.
The car gets warm in both oil (80c) and water temps (90c).
My seat heater gets warm, so that's not a problem.
Even when leaving the temp set to "HI" and the Blower on "Low" the air
coming from the vents on a 25deg day feels at best 40deg.
This is true for defrost vents, dash vents and foot vents.
The temp differential over ambient seems to be constant so the car
eventually gets above 60deg on the inside, except for the foot area.
I come to the conclusion that either:
1. There is minimal hot engine water flowing into the heater-core because
of a valve problem
2. No hot water in core because the HVAC controller is sensing the output
air incorrectly
3. Plenty of hot water in heater core, but no air flowing through.
So can someone scan the couple of basic diagnostic trees from their V8
service manuals?
Before I finish putting all the lower trim panels in place I'd like to get
this resolved or at least improved.
Help.
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