[V8] Flat Crank V8Q

[bhowell at rmi.net]

You could be right. I was just throwing what I had HEARD out there. Truth
is, there aren't a whole lot of people who REALLY know what had happened. 

I am pretty confident that the V8's DTM wins were astericked for the '91
season because of an engine diplacement "discrepency".
 

Original Message:
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From: Scott Simmons indischrot at gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:32:52 -0500
To: bhowell at rmi.net, jward.v8 at gmail.com, v8 at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V8] Flat Crank V8Q


I heard it was twisted from a cross plane design to a flat plane 
design.  But that's just what Wiki tells me.

~Scott S

bhowell at rmi.net wrote:

>The process is known as "Twist Forging" and it is well documented that that
>is how the V8 cranks were made. The story I had heard on the DTM cars was
>that they weren't twisted back to flat, but they just had a little *extra*
>stroke twisted into them. So, when BMW and MBenz protested the Audi V8 and
>won, it was because they were displacing more than than the production car
>at the time.
>
>Ben
>
>
>
>Original Message:
>-----------------
>From: Jeremy Ward jward.v8 at gmail.com
>Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:58:11 -0700
>To: sdewitt at stx.rr.com, v8 at audifans.com
>Subject: [V8] Flat Crank V8Q
>
>
>Sorry for the late reply (digging my way out of unread-emails).
>
>The word I have is that all V8Q cranks started out flat and were bent while
>hot; IIRC, there is something about this process that leads to a more
stable
>crank.
>
>In 1990 and 1991, Audi took these cranks and bent them back to flat for the
>DTM.  Audi was Stuck and Biela dominated the DTM despite the weight
>penalties, and BMW and Mercedes were looking for a way to get them
>disqualified; they complained that this process violated the rules and won.
>Audi completed the 1991 season (for which Biela was the point leader), but
>the 1992 V8 DTM cars which were in production were halted.
>
>NOTE: if someone knows this story better than I do, please chime in with
the
>details.
>
>Simon in Australia had a 1992 DTM for sale (that was never able to
compete),
>but it look like it may have been sold as it is no longer on the qsz
>webpage.
>
>
>I still wonder if it is possible to create a flat crank from one of ours
and
>pair it with some hot VW cams...
>
>Dreaming again,
>
>- Jeremy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of
>sdewitt at stx.rr.com
>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:28 PM
>To: Tony and Lillie
>Cc: v8 at audifans.com; J123fs at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [V8] cam clearence- big cams vs-heads
>
>Didn't Audi profess to have a way to modify a V8 crank making it a flat
>crank?
>
>
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