[V8] Is this the "new" Porsche hotrod list?

Tue Feb 20 17:13:08 EST 2007

  Mr. "Roger"

   I don't know what your problem is(boredom and ignorance comes to mind) attacking me but there are some extremely obvious things that you should consider before you make a derogatory post like that.

  First of all, and this is the most painfully obvious fact, my original e-mail to the list was about me looking for a couple of parts for my V8. The e-mail was NOT titled "My experience with AudiConnection" was it? I believe it was something along the lines of "Still need these parts". Based on the title of the e-mail and it's context any person would see what it was about and most importantly what it was NOT about. In case you still can't see it, my e-mail was not intended to give a full on "essay" on my experience with Bruce or AudiConnection. I was just plain looking for parts and simply mentioned within the context that I have tried to obtain them from other sources, one of which was a bad experience. Reason was so the listers on here don't think I'm just "bothering" them without looking elsewhere first.

  I really do NOT appreciate all your remarks regarding "childish" behavior or your hints that I may be lying about what happened since, again, I didn't provide full detail about my experience when my e-mail was never about that to begin with. What should my reaction be to all this? That you are acting like an old fart with too much time on his hands? No! I will not be that ignorant.

  To all those that have had a good experience with Bruce and contributed to this e-mail, maybe you should consider that people make mistakes. People can stop caring and just because someone has a good track record, when a problem arises you shouldn't jump to conclude that the other party is making up stories. Guess what(this will blow your mind), I heard nothing but good things about AudiConnection too!!! Oh My God! So how could it be that I wasn't happy with him? 

Well...

1. Waiting a week at a time to receive a reply isn't exactly professional
2. Took about a month and a half to get my parts since he was taking his time
3. Parts were not shipped out when promised
4. Wrong parts were received
5. At the end I was given a refund with a note saying "I don't have time to look for your parts"

If you guys consider that good service, well...I rest my case.

Dan

> From: rmwoodbury at adelphia.net> To: v8 at audifans.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:27:23 -0500> Subject: [V8] Is this the "new" Porsche hotrod list?> > I hope not. > > What's the "Porsche hotrod list", you ask? > > Well let me tell you a little story. A short while ago, I got really> involved with Porsches. My daily driver was a 1989 Audi 200 Avant, and in> the garage for other duties rested a 1988 Porsche 911 Targa and a 1987> Porsche 928S4. Naturally, I belonged to almost all the Porsche email lists.> The 928S4 was a replacement for a very nice 944, and the 911 was, well, it> was here because I always wanted to have one. > > But as those particular cars got older, the membership seemed to get> younger. Or maybe I just got older. Whatever the situation, there developed> on some of the lists...not ALL of them, but some...a certain edginess that> was unpleasant. More "in your face" kind of exchanges, with little real> substance. Just smart mouth stuff, as though the writer, cloaked in the> anonymity of the Internet, was going to "show" someone what a big hot shoe> he was. > > Gradually, I reduced my membership, until only the 928 group was left.> > After I bought my second V8 Quattro, I looked around until I found this> list. This list was much like the 928 lists that I belonged to. I think it> might have had something to do with the simple fact that unless you actually> had the experience, you wouldn't know what it was. Certainly in the case of> the 928, almost every other Porsche owner looked askance at the car, as> though the 928 wasn't somehow a "real" Porsche. (Of course the 928 was the> first "real" Porsche; designed using a totally clean sheet of paper and not> at all influenced by VW, or for that matter, Ferdinand. But the 911 people> didn't want authenticity, they only wanted obsolescence, but I digress).> > So on this list are people who know and love or perhaps hate the V8 Quattro,> which was Audi's first real venture into the luxury automobile field. It> was a failure. It was a failure because it may have been about a decade> ahead of its time. Now, it is a car that those of us who have or have had,> or want one, know about, but the number of people like us is small and> dwindling about as fast as the number of cars available for us to own. I> doubt that there are ten thousand left on American roads today, and probably> a lot fewer.> > So, when we have a resource available to us that can help us to maintain our> vehicles into their second DECADE of service and beyond, I think it makes> good sense to display a certain amount of loyalty to that resource.> > Recently I read a lister slamming Bruce at Audi Connection (Now German Auto> Connection). There was no real content to the indictment, just that> something had gone terribly wrong in the discussion between the lister and> Bruce, and therefore, Bruce was a "bad guy". > > Well, wait a minute. I have never bought anything from Audi/German Auto> Connection. But I have had occasion to ask some questions of Bruce about> specific types of problems, and I have received prompt and professional> replies. No, I have not asked Bruce or anyone there to diagnose a problem> with a vehicle, but I know that if I do need a diagnosis, it will be> furnished in professional detail FOR A FEE. Seems fairs to me: German Auto> Connection is a business with specific valued information about the Audi V8> Quattro that a lot of franchised dealers do not have. So, if there is> something that is needed for these cars, be it information or parts, then> the availability of a resource like Bruce is of great value.> > The hinting around at something that had been terribly wrong without giving> more than mere slander as "proof" is childish and immature. If the story is> worth telling, then tell it like it is, and be very specific for that is one> of the values of this list. This is not a club with a secret handshake, it> is an open forum for the exchange of information about these fine> automobiles and mere bad mouthing some professional because of hurt feelings> demean all of us on this list.> > So if someone has a problem with a business transaction involving ANY> supplier then present the situation in complete detail, being honest and> forth right about the expectations that were not met so that both sides of> the story can be reviewed. I doubt that there will be any counter claim> made by a commercial business so if a negative report is going to be made by> a lister about a supplier, I think it would be of benefit to all of us to> hear the WHOLE story, including what happened, what was expected, where the> falling off of service occurred, and what the result was of attempted> mediation of the issue. If all the details are left out, what is left is> mere childish rumor.> > I don't want to see this list become like some of the Porsche lists to which> I belonged for many years. I do not want to read posts about how cool it> was to be going to the Seven Eleven to buy diapers and on the way, "Man: I> smoked that Rice Eater at two stoplights!" > > I also don’t want to read gossip about this or that company or service with> an established reputation of support and professionalism without a lot of> detail and truthfulness. > > That would be just a waste of my time.> > Roger> > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/691 - Release Date: 2/17/2007> 5:06 PM> > > _______________________________________________> Audifans V8 mailing list> Send posts to: mailto:V8 at audifans.com> Manage your list connection: http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/v8> Have an Audi V8 question? Check the Audifans Knowledgebase!> http://www.audifans.com/twiki/bin/view/Audi/V8> Have a V8 answer? ... Please help others by adding to the KB ... all contributions welcome!