[V8] Infamous V8 No Start

Ingo Rautenberg ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
Thu Jul 12 16:05:12 EDT 2007 

Hmm.  Don't recall if you have sport or comfort seats.  Sports sit  
lower, which is what I have in the '91 5 speed.  I have the Connoly  
ones (same height as comfort) in the '93 and am also a bit cramped  
(I'm 6'4").  Ideally, I'd like the lower seating position of the  
Sport seats or Ur S4/S6 seats for that car.


Ingo
'84 urq - '91 V8 5 spd - '93 V8



On Jul 12, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

> Well that's good to hear. I guess I won't feel quite so guilty  
> everytime the
> car bleeds me at the mechanic. Ironic about those options you  
> mentioned
> below. The remote keyless entry donsn't work and the sunroof  
> regulator is
> out of wack. I haven't opened the sunroof once since I've owned the  
> car. Oh
> well, if I had my ruthers, I'd pull it out to gain some head room.
>
>
>> From: "Ed Kellock" <ekellock at gmail.com>
>> To: "Paul Jones" <elsey12 at hotmail.com>
>> CC: v8 at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: [V8] Infamous V8 No Start
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:19:02 -0600
>>
>> Don't.  The $1500 5spd was no GE.  Not by any stretch.  I did not buy
>> it, btw, my friend did for his brother in FL.  He held on to it as
>> long as he could but his brother finally made him deliver it.  He has
>> a very nice 94 S4 and basically quit driving it while he had the  
>> 5spd.
>> And then he got to drive it from CO to FL to deliver it, so he had
>> his fun.
>>
>> In my opinion, a converted 93, as long as it's not a heap, would
>> definitely be worth a premium over the average automatic 93.  It
>> really will depend on the buyer.  If they want a manual transmission
>> they will have far less to choose from.  It's really apples and
>> oranges.
>>
>> I might put a premium on a converted 91 5spd, one that has had the  
>> 4.2
>> swapped in, as that is far less invasive.  However, you're  
>> accepting a
>> somewhat lower level of content in terms of keyless entry, climate
>> control, mirror settings in the seat memory reserve, and one-touch
>> sunroof open.
>>
>> I paid 6800 for my 91k mile black/black 93 with H&R's and Konis,
>> custom exhaust, and a "chipped" ECU.  If I had been looking for a  
>> 5spd
>> and this one was, I'd have expected to pay 8k or more for it.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On 7/12/07, Paul Jones <elsey12 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, well it makes me feel like an idiot for paying as much as I  
>>> did for
>>> the GE. At the end of the day, is a converted '93 worth more than an
>>> autobox
>>> '93 or '91 5spd? I guess there really isn't a market to gauge  
>>> considering
>>> I
>>> have more fingers on one hand than the number of '93 5spds.
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com>
>>>> CC: v8 at audifans.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [V8] Infamous V8 No Start
>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:56:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>> WOW...$1,500 5spd V8's are all over the place
>>>> huh...LOL Everyone keep looking...you'll find one for
>>>> that price as I did, & your buddy as well Ed.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanx
>>>> Ron & the $1,500 5spd V8 ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --- Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The 5spd that was for sale here in the Spring a year
>>>>> ago (for 1500!)
>>>>> was plagued with this.  The owner would run the
>>>>> battery down and
>>>>> change plugs and finally threw in the towel (not a
>>>>> DIY'er).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/11/07, FredParkerJr <FredParkerJr at cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am coming into this thread a little late in the
>>>>> game, so forgive me if I
>>>>>> mention something that has already been brought
>>>>> up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My V8 has not liked being short cycled (started,
>>>>> moved in the driveway, and
>>>>>> shut off) since day one.  I have learned to make
>>>>> it a habit to let it run
>>>>>> for a few minutes, presumably to allow the engine
>>>>> management system to lean
>>>>>> out the mixture a bit.  I have never had a no
>>>>> start that I can remember, but
>>>>>> it is hard starting after a short cycle and it
>>>>> definitely runs very rough
>>>>>> for a minute or two once it starts.  It is very
>>>>> possible that the FPR is
>>>>>> dribbling a bit allowing fuel in while it is off,
>>>>> but my guess is that it is
>>>>>> nothing more than a very rich condition at
>>>>> start-up.  By the way, changing
>>>>>> out the FPR is pretty easy and is probably a good
>>>>> idea if yours is old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like a bad Fuel pressure regulator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not a reference sensor issue. I have put
>>>>> two reference
>>>>>>> sensors in
>>>>>>> this car since we bought it and that is not part
>>>>> of the equation
>>>>>>> with this
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a engine-has-too-much-fuel issue because
>>>>> when the plugs
>>>>>>> come out
>>>>>>> they are WET! This isn't a frequent issue
>>>>> either. We have had the
>>>>>>> car 7
>>>>>>> years now and it has happened 3 times. It's not
>>>>> like it's a HUGE
>>>>>>> problem, I
>>>>>>> was more curious as to why it's happening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original Message:
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben, there are a couple of things on the V8 that
>>>>> can (and will) cause
>>>>>>> you grief. More info on them can be found here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.audifans.com/twiki/bin/view/Audi/NoStartV8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
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