[V8] alumisil motors

[Ron Wainwright]

Very nice Sean...but you'll never be as crazy &
I..MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;-) Big Baldy Willoubey is
pretty crazy...& you too Dave C ;-)

 Ron Mit crazy like a loon

--- Sean cole <v8coupe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ron and all,
> 
> This has been discussed before, but I'll say it
> again.  Our motors are not
> dead.  I for one am totally looking for every VAG
> part from the 20vt to the
> VR6 to find parts.  Is it expensive to use the parts
> from everything else to
> build a motor YES.  Your bet your ass it is.  A
> rebuild on a 20vt is what 6k
> with turbo and manifolds?  I looked at building a
> mild (in my head) V8
> 4.2Lwith 85mm (.5mm over sized bores), forged 159mm
> (4mm longer then
> stock)
> rods, 22mm wrist pins, 6mm ABZ guides, custom cams,
> custom valve train,
> ported heads, slightly decked block, headers, and
> custom intake.  The grand
> total for that rebuild was 10-15k, and that's with
> me fabricating the
> intake, headers, and doing the head porting and
> valve work.
> 
> Alumisil blocks are not new.  I'm already aware of
> the best place in the
> country to take them or at least if your a big cube
> 928 man.  I have
> contacts from my job with people that can do it. 
> It's not impossible just
> expensive when your looking at 175-200 a hole for
> slugs and 50-70 a hole for
> honing and ~45-60 for the over bore it adds up
> quickly.  It's not a unknown
> thing people bore 928 5.0L v8's that came in the GT
> and I think S4 cars to
> 6.3L with a stroker crank and that is a trick since
> the top of the block is
> open not closed like ours.
> 
> So can it be done yes.  You want my opinion on
> sleeves? they are a risk that
> unless needed should be avoided at all cost.  I know
> from talking to a few
> people that a guy build 3 944t motors with sleeves
> to get out of custom
> pistons and 2 of the 3 motors dropped a sleeve and
> well you can imagine the
> carnage of the crank hitting the sleeve.  Not worth
> the risk alumisil is a
> good technology and hell know of any people not
> liking their 944t motor
> because it's weak? I can tell you it's great the
> silicon bores (what you get
> with the blocks we have) are tough shit.  silicon is
> some go shit and can
> withstand some crazy shit and the aluminum block
> transfer heat out of the
> motor faster and into the water to get cooled.  I'm
> the crazy one in this
> group, maybe even crazier then Dear Ron.  He knows
> how deep I've been down
> this rabbit hole and all I can tell you is it's a
> long dark hole.  and if
> you dare wonder down it bring your wallet full of
> $$$,  it's not cheap to
> play with the V8's, but it's also not cheap to play
> with big cube 928's.
> Aluminum blocks complicate things, but the weight
> benifit and the heat
> transfer properties are why even chevy is starting
> to use them.
> 
> Hope that helps every one,
> Sean
> 90 Pearl V8q V8plus
> go big or get out of my way.
> 
> 
> Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:06:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [V8] Nikasil coating for cyl walls
> > To: sdewitt at stx.rr.com
> > Cc: v8 at audifans.com, Bluemaxww1 at aol.com
> > Message-ID:
> <238540.47849.qm at web60824.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I love to take everything into account Scott..;-)
> >  But I like this idea. Sleeving is/would just be
> > covering up a problem to a very feasable solution.
> >
> >  For many years I thought that our lower ends
> couldn't
> > be rebuilt. But with Co's like 034ms were they
> have
> > solutions for us I think that it would only be the
> > best solution to the age ol folk lore that our
> blocks
> > can't be brought back to life.
> >
> >  I plan on getting the stock pistons shaved a bit
> to
> > get the compression to twin turbo one of my 3.6
> > motors. I would like to..while the pistons & rods
> > would be out....to get the rest of the parts to do
> the
> > lower end. It would basically be a new factory
> block!
> > I wouldn't be thinking the whole time that I have
> a
> > bandaid (sleeves)
> >
> >  But I all so posted the link cause I may just be
> the
> > new proud owner of a early 80's 928..whoo hooo
> >
> >  Ron mit gone off the deep end MUWAHAHAHAHA
> >
> 



       
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