[V8] Rear Speakers KB?

[quattro + 5 or 8 = fun]

IMO the bose system SUCKS.  AND SUCKS SOME MORE.

I replaced my just over a year ago and spent considerable time doing it.  I
am running Boston Acoustic Rally seperates (RC620 in the rear, RC420 in the
front) in the front and rear of the car.  I am using an average JVC head
unit.  I run two amps.  The Bostons are run off an A/D/S PowerPlate 6.25 (6
Channel 50 amps each).  The subs which are 17 year old POS Rockford Fosgate
12 inch subs (two of them) are bridged to a JL Audio amp.  300 watt I think.
this may not sound like much power (realistically, the JL is not putting out
300, but the ADS IS capable of an honest 250), but i can tell u the sound is
COMPLETELY AMAZING at any volume.  ANY!  It will shake set off car alarms in
parking garages a story up and a story below.  And best of all, it will be
clean when when doing it.  I am in my 30's so, unlike most of 20 year old
kids who want boom, my goal is quality.  I think i got it with the system I
built.  I did it on an amazingly small budget too.  I got EVERYTHING (but
the deck) on ebay or from local stores going out of business.  Including TOP
quality connectors and cables (a must IMO), i spent about $650 on the
system.  I paid full price for the deck of about $300.  I have listened to
several systems where the owners spent between $3000-$4000.  i would not say
mine budget system is worlds better (it is better for my listening tastes),
but I would say it most certainly competes, and does so with cleaner sound.
TWO things i did that i think set it apart.  I took the WHOLE interior out
of the car.  Everything.  Dash, seats, door panels.  EVERYTHING.  I ran all
the wiring in the factory wiring looms (which was REALLY hard).  And, i made
the system totally transparent.  IOW, other then the four exposed tweeters
and non-bozo head unit, you can't tell what is in there.  I modified the
front bozo housings to fit the Boston speakers.  And, i leak tested both
housings before i put it back into the door.  In all, the whole job took me
about 80 hours.  Just the front door mods took about 20 hrs.  The rear
speakers were easier.  A lot.  part of my concern was making sure i could
remove the subs in under a minute.  ERGO, i did not build a custom box.  it
just a cheap $50 bandpass i picked up at some rinky dink store in WA state
about 15 years ago.  what was a little harder was mounting the amps under
the parcel shelf with all the uneven grooves.  I had to build spacers, which
was not that hard.  what was hard was holding the amps with very little
clearance.  My arms go so sore.  that A/D/S amp is a MONSTER.  it weighs i
would guess about 15 pounds (which gets heavy when u measure, remeasure,
drill, drill a bit more, measure, hold, position, etc., etc., etc.).  In
all, spending the time i did to install it all may not be up everyone's
alley.  but it is so worth it.  it sounds just amazing.  audio is a favorite
past time of mine.  imo, if u do want quality components, go for the Alpine
Deck, Zapco amp, A/D/S amp (not sure if they still make amps, but bet u can
get NOS on ebay), MB Quart or Boston Pro Speakers, etc.  You can spend WAY
BIG $$ if you chose Focal, Nakamichi or other high end marks.  Or, you can
save a few $$ by going with names like JVC (just know which deck to buy) and
so on.  sorry, got kinda distracted on this post.  hope it helps some.  BTW,
i would NEVER go back to my Bozo stuff again.  :)


Shayne


PARTING:  1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5
PARTING:  1986 Audi 4000 CS quattro


> BTDT
> 
> I ended up going back to the bose system. It sounds sooo much better
> 
> 
> --- Scott Simmons <indischrot at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Did you put back in the same speaker?  I'm planning on changing the
>> speaker and using my own amp.  Bose is a nice brand name, yes, but a
>> single paper cone speaker just isn't that great for sound quality.  I'm
>> still debating on what brand to go with (Blaupunkt?  Infinity?  Alpine?)
>> but I plan on doing something like this:
>> 
>> OE setup:
>> [head unit]==[vehicle harness]====[onboard amp][speaker]
>> 
>> My setup:
>> [head unit]==[vehicle harness]====[aftermarket amp]=[speaker]
>> 
>> I debated redoing the Bose amps but unless someone can convince me that
>> they're superior, it seems like I should just replace the whole system
>> while it's out.  The lower speaker housing has all those vent holes,
>> perfect for running in two new speaker wires to bypass that amp.  This
>> is a viable and clean option for the rear, but the front has me really
>> concerned.  No real place to mount an amp up there and I dread running
>> wires into the doors...
>> 
>> ~Scott
>> 
>> MORRALEE David wrote:
>> 
>>> I re did all my speakers last year and the hardest part of this job it
>>> getting the little nuts back on to the back of the speakers . I had them
>>> out to replace all the CAPs , now the system works like new again, no
>>> pops , no squeezzz and No possible fire .
>>> 
>>> Dave M
>>> 93 V8 4.2 summer car
>>> 87 5000 quattro T winter Car
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Scott Simmons
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:50 PM
>>> To: V8 Audi Fans
>>> Subject: [V8] Rear Speakers KB?
>>> 
>>> Pulled my rear speakers today.  It's almost too easy for a KB entry, but
>>> I thought I'd save some folks some trouble.
>>> 
>>> Tools Needed:
>>> 7mm socket or driver
>>> Flatblade screwdriver
>>> 
>>> There are four nuts (with two washers each) holding up the lower speaker
>>> and amp housing.  There's a flat washer, a lock washer, and the nut.
>>> They like to fly in different directions after the nut is loose, so pay
>>> attention.  The right speaker is pretty simple.  I had to use a
>>> flatblade screwdriver to undo the electrical connector.  Wiggle it back
>>> and forth and pry very gently on the tabs.
>>> 
>>> The left rear speaker has a nut that's a bit hard to get to.  Pull the
>>> rear carpeting on the floor and the wheel well/fender to get a tool up
>>> in there.  I'm contemplating whether or not to put that nut back on when
>>> I reassemble. 
>>> 
>>> Speaker housing will probably fall on your face after the last nut is
>>> out.  There's a small gasket that may stick to the upper housing or may
>>> come down with the speaker unit.
>>> 
>>> Do not try this on a windy day, as the wind will blow the trunk lid down
>>> and it will smash into your shins.