[V8] Was Dizzy Seals, Now Radiator
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diemarthadie at aol.com
Sat Nov 10 08:43:55 PST 2007
Well, it IS a V8 after all...
Mine was doing just fine until I resolved to sell it and that same day it dropped the headliner. Got that back in place and had a lister over to see it (well really to see the absurd pile of spares) and it wouldn't start. Was running fine, drove it around the 'hood a week or so earlier, so that morning it said, "I'm cranky, like Roger". Since it was running fine, I had devoted my spare (yeah right) time to herding the wild spares piles into boxes that could be labeled and found again... little did I know that the spares were plotting with the car to distract me...
I think the spare parts are breeding too. I don't know when or why I got 2 spare torque converters... or 5 sets of window regulators and glass...
Remember, it is a V8 and they know what you're thinking!!!
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com>
To: 'Scott Simmons' <indischrot at gmail.com>; 'V8 Audi Fans' <v8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: [V8] Was Dizzy Seals, Now Radiator
Oh sure, blame the car.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Scott Simmons
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:26 PM
> To: V8 Audi Fans
> Subject: Re: [V8] Was Dizzy Seals, Now Radiator
>
>
> Update:
> Car isn't leaking.
>
> I send that last email, take a shower, get dressed, go out
> and an hour
> later, it's left no drops. I top off the antifreeze. No noises from
> the heads.
>
> I carefully drive it to work, by that time the engine's
> warmed up. No
> drips. I park it in a clean spot. I come out four hours later to a
> cold engine. No drips. I start it up, no noises.
>
> I think this car is trying to drive me insane, I really really do.
>
> ~Scott S.
>
>
> >
> >
> >>Well we all live & learn...but one can only give there
> >>BTDT on something. It's just that I have found that
> >>the aftermarket rads for the V8's are CRAP! But I
> >>suppose there are all way's two BTDT's on something. &
> >>mine which is quiet extensive has showed me that
> >>crappy parts are crappy parts..wheather they be OE or whatever.
> >>
> >>But you talking about the washer in the pic? If so
> >>looks like it's the washer for the tensioner. A
> >>bracket attaches to one of the lower empty holes at
> >>the water pump that an Allen head bolt bolt's too. The
> bracket is just
> >>to set the belt tension. You would tension the belt
> tensioner & stick
> >>a small 3mm allen wrench in there to keep the adjustment while you
> >>tighten the allen bolt.
> >>& those other pieces look like the friction pad bolt.
> >>But can't really tell.
> >>But thats my BTDT ;-)
> >>
> >>But you need a rad...or the one you have is good???
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>--- Scott Simmons <indischrot at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I guess I should get this out of the way:
> >>>
> >>> You were right, Ron.
> >>>
> >>>Hey now, I have the ability to admit my wrongs and
> compliment those
> >>>who are right. It hurts my ego, but it's always the
> >>>right thing to do. ;)
> >>>
> >>>The radiators are scrap. Or maybe just the one I
> >>>got. The molding
> >>>differences on the end caps were acceptable: the
> >>>drain cock is now just
> >>>a normal wingnut style, the mounting studs on the
> >>>backside (where the
> >>>two nuts hold it against the radiator support) were
> >>>threaded holes
> >>>instead of studs, the holes for the transmission
> >>>lines were not flanged
> >>>exactly the same as OE,---- but all of this would
> >>>have been acceptable.
> >>>There were two killers:
> >>>1) the fins crumpled under the lightest touch. Just
> >>>smooshed themselves
> >>>down. I can't even bend the OE rad fins.
> >>>2) the frame flexed way too much. I could probably
> >>>break the damn thing
> >>>with my bare hands.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/indischrot/audi/rad1.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I started to cut away the notch on top for the hood
> >>>latch, but didn't
> >>>bother. I wasn't going to put this POS in. So if
> >>>anyone wants it, $50
> >>>incl shipping else I'm going to sell it to a
> >>>radiator shop in town for
> >>>scrap metal. Lesson learned, I guess.
> >>>
> >>>While I was in there, I attended to the real reason
> >>>of the job:
> >>>retensioning my t-belt. It was a little loose.
> >>>When I did the t-belt
> >>>job, the old radiator would leak water from the
> >>>trans line area after
> >>>reinstallation. That stopped after about a week or
> >>>so, so I stopped
> >>>caring. But I knew that I needed to recheck t-belt
> >>>tension... which
> >>>meant pulling radiator... which would probably leak
> >>>like a sieve if I
> >>>put it back in.
> >>>
> >>>Turns out the plastic near the mounting bolt for the
> >>>lower trans line
> >>>has started to split/pull away in a layer. It was
> >>>such a simple problem
> >>>that I just smeared some JB Waterweld on there. If
> >>>it didn't leak
> >>>without the JB, it shouldn't leak with it. If it
> >>>does, ah well, water's
> >>>cheap.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/indischrot/audi/project.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Worst part of the entire job? Fighting that mother
> >>>f*#ing clutch-fan
> >>>shroud. That thing would not stay in one place. It
> >>>always fell down
> >>>ontop of what I was doing and always managed to get
> >>>itself wedged. I
> >>>didn't take off radiator support, so I couldn't
> >>>completely remove the
> >>>right t-belt cover. So when I had that thing out of
> >>>the way to get to
> >>>the eccentric pulley, the shroud would be wedged
> >>>somewhere looking like
> >>>it was about to break or some crap like that. Oh it
> >>>drove me nuts.
> >>>
> >>>And don't forget, the right tool for the job makes
> >>>it 1000000x easier.
> >>>Having a 90º pair of snap ring pliers to fit into
> >>>the eccentric pulley
> >>>to tension was far easier than the first half hour
> >>>with the 45º needle
> >>>nose pliers that would keep falling out. Tensioner
> >>>that was originally
> >>>at 6 o'clock (judged by the center between the two
> >>>adjustment holes) is
> >>>now properly tensioned at 11 o'clock.
> >>>
> >>>I don't know why, but for the first three tension adjustments, I'd
> >>>measure 136mm on the shock. Lock down the pulley.
> >>>Rotate engine 720º
> >>>and find the tensioner shock at 145 or 155mm. That
> >>>was frustrating. I
> >>>finally got a consistent reading but will check it
> >>>one more time
> >>>tomorrow before installing radiator.
> >>>
> >>>I did have to "break" the air snorkels that fit in
> >>>front of the radiator
> >>>and condenser to get the radiator out. They're held
> >>>in place by plastic
> >>>snaps. I'll figure out a way to reattach them.
> >>>There was no way the
> >>>radiator was coming out without removing them.
> >>>
> >>>No other "gotcha"s. I have one left over piece from
> >>>the previous t-belt
> >>>job (March) but I couldn't figure out where it goes.
> >>>It's a space/shim
> >>>to fit around a M8 bolt. 15mm wide with a 7-8mm
> >>>hole (M6 bolt??) and
> >>>it's about 4-5mm thick. Looks like a silver donut,
> >>>with sharp edges.
> >>>Where the heck did this go?
> >>>Here's a picture of it, don't mind the bolts:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a143/indischrot/audi/bolts.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
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