[V8] Makes me cranky....

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Sun Nov 11 06:53:44 PST 2007


Reason 4 possibly...

A lot of the newer Daytime Running Lights are being put in the high beam pot
these days instead of the low beam one.  I find this to be a hazard because
even though the bulb output is lower, it is projected such that it is
offensive to oncoming traffic.  

Just another knee-jerk reaction to a symptom in lieu of a realistic solution
for the actual problem.

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com 
> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Roger Woodbury
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:52 AM
> To: 'Scott Simmons'; 'V8 Audi Fans'
> Subject: Re: [V8] Makes me cranky....
> 
> 
> I think there are two reasons why so many cars have fog 
> lights and the drivers leave them on all the time...well, 
> maybe THREE reasons.
> 
> Reason one:  The "cool" factor.  The cars look "cool" that way.
> 
> Reason Two:  Low beam headlights are so terrible both from a 
> lumen output and from a beam focus standpoint that in order 
> to see much of anything, fog lights are needed all the time.
> 
> Reason three:  the driver doesn't even know that they are on, 
> forgot that he/she turned them on, and has forgotten or 
> doesn't know what that little light on the dashboard is 
> supposed to mean.  Pretty hard to remember all that stuff 
> while also trying to remember what all the little buttons on 
> the cell phone are supposed to do.
> 
> Subarus are the worst.  Their great big fog lights are just 
> great big orbs that are pretty bright.  I imagine that they 
> are useless in real fog.  
> 
> A very long time ago, when I has aspirations toward being a 
> world class rally driver, I did a lot of research into fog 
> and driving lights.  I got to know a guy from Sheboygan 
> Wisconsin by the name of Eugene Shermeister.  He had a 
> business called "Apogee Enterprises", and was a member of the 
> Society of Automotive Engineers, among other credentials.  
> Anyway, he imported ALL the major brands of driving and fog 
> lights from just about everywhere.  Even some Japense brands 
> and that was a time when Toyota was just starting to import cars.
> 
> I actually became a sub-distributor for him and sold and did 
> a some installation of driving and fog light systems in the 
> southern New England area...even some in southern Maine for 
> people who belonged to the Cumberland Motor Club.  Anyway, 
> learned a lot about lighting from Shermeister, including 
> which fog and driving lights were the best (Cibie); which 
> types were the best (GREAT BIG ONES), and even experimented 
> with light aircraft landing lights (don't even think about it!).
> 
> My Volvo station wagon had 8 inch driving lights and Marchal 
> 850 fog lights (I think they were 850's).  Stock SAE 7" 
> headlamps since I was in Massachusetts and didn't fancy 
> changing the headlights every spring for annual inspection. 
> 
> All the lights were wired separately, as I seldom used them 
> except for night rallys when there would be very little 
> oncoming traffic.  One night I was driving down a dirt road 
> between Osterville and Centerville (Yep!  In those days there 
> were a LOT of dirt roads on Cape Cod!) and I met some jerk in 
> some sort of vehicle with very bright headlights.  I had 
> three customers in the car and was trying to show them the 
> magic of great big, round driving lights.  Anyway, the other 
> guy just wouldn't dim for me, and since the road was narrow, 
> windy and dirt, I just had to....well...
> 
> I hit the master switch and lit em all up.
> 
> When I carefully drove past him, he was sitting by the side 
> of the road with his head resting on the steering wheel....
> 
> Then there was that other time when some guy in an oncoming 
> car wouldn't dim...he was turning left into a driveway, and 
> out of patience, I gave him the full treatment.  You'd be 
> surprised how bright the emblem of the Massachusetts State 
> Police glowed when the side door was lit up by 300,000 candlepower....
> 
> Roger
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Simmons [mailto:indischrot at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:06 PM
> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com; V8 Audi Fans
> Subject: Re: [V8] Makes me cranky....
> 
> I live in Rural Kansas.  And, well, yeah, all the stereotypes 
> are true.  
> Especially when it comes to domestic vehicles.  These guys 
> don't add on 
> a cold air tube to their Honda econobox, they raise their 
> dualie Dodges 
> 6".  And yeah, their headlights are now even with my cabin. 
> 
> And while I'm on a headlight rant... why is it that half the 
> cars these 
> days have fog lights on all the time?  And why are they sometimes 
> brighter than the headlights??
> 
> ~Scott S.
> 
> Roger Woodbury wrote:
> 
> >You betcha!  I'm gonna get even with those set up Ford and GM trucks 
> >now!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Scott Simmons [mailto:indischrot at gmail.com]
> >Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:21 PM
> >To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
> >Subject: Re: [V8] Makes me cranky....
> >
> >When I read news reports of mass blindings on the East coast due to a
> >second star appearing on the Earth's surface every night...
> >
> >...I'll think of you. ;)
> >
> >~Scott S.
> >
> >Roger Woodbury wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Yeah, that's about what I figure it will take.  It will make me VERY
> >>    
> >>
> >cranky,
> >  
> >
> >>but I will get over it once I light up Christendom with those big
> >>    
> >>
> >lights....
> >  
> >
> >>R
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Scott Simmons [mailto:indischrot at gmail.com]
> >>Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:53 AM
> >>To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
> >>Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> >>Subject: Re: [V8] Makes me cranky....
> >>
> >>I don't know on the 100, but I do know on the V8.  I removed all the
> >>other screws and mounting hardware and that allowed the 
> unit to flex a 
> >>bit.  At which point I had a 1/4" driver with an extension 
> and a socket 
> >>on it, and flexed the bit of trim in front of the headlight and the 
> >>headlight unit itself enough to wiggle the makeshift 
> nut-driver down to 
> >>that bottom bolt.  I didn't like flexing the trim, but I 
> had no choice, 
> >>other than pull the entire bumper off.
> >>
> >>~Scott S.
> >>
> >>Roger Woodbury wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Well, I finally have the time and weather in place to tackle two
> necessary
> >>>projects for The Old Gray Mare.  First up will be the 
> replacement of 
> >>>the heater/ac flappy motor.  I anticipate that to go easily.
> >>>
> >>>Next will be to rip out the two old headlights and replace 
> them with 
> >>>the
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>new
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>European headlights that I have received.  That will be the tough 
> >>>task,
> or
> >>>so it seems, because in my brief inspection of the nose of 
> the car, 
> >>>it
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>would
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>appear that the trim along the top of the bumper will have to be 
> >>>removed
> >>>      
> >>>
> >in
> >  
> >
> >>>order to gain access to the bottom mounting points of the 
> headlamps.
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Either
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>that or the bumper itself will have to come off...either way, it 
> >>>looks
> >>>      
> >>>
> >like
> >  
> >
> >>>a pita.
> >>>
> >>>Naturally the garage is chockablock full of stuff, so the entire 
> >>>project will have to be done in the driveway.
> >>>
> >>>Cloudy and cool here today.  Not terribly COLD, but 
> chilly, and that 
> >>>will undoubtedly make me VERY cranky by the time I figure 
> out how to 
> >>>do the headlights.
> >>>
> >>>Anyone know how to get access easily to the bottom mounting screws 
> >>>for a Type 44 Audi 100?
> >>>
> >>>First I have to go to the transfer station for the regular Saturday
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>morning,
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>ritual, and then I will stop at the NAPA and get some new relays.
> >>>
> >>>We're supposed to have a nice weekend here, but it is very 
> overcast 
> >>>now,
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>and
> >> 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>if it rains, I will be VERY cranky!
> >>>
> >>>Roger
> >>>
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