[V8] The Audi Gods strike again

Tue Nov 20 15:20:19 PST 2007

Brake pedal to the floor negates any Bomb involvement.  Separate
system.  If it didn't burst a line and dump its brake fluid then it's
pretty much gotta be the master.

Yikes.

On 11/20/07, Roger Woodbury <rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> No previous brake problem.  Since I drive this car infrequently, I am always
> amazed at some of the tangible differences between this car and my normal
> driver, The Old Gray Mare, a 1990 100 non-quattro.
>
> But as I have thought more about it since yesterday, I did think that the
> brakes were really "soft", although I didn't think in driving it pre-failure
> that there was anything really amiss.  In fact, except for the brake pedal
> sinking to the floor with vastly diminished braking effect, nothing was
> different.  NO warning lights of any kind, no ABS stuttering, no loss of
> fluid, NOTHING.  Pumping the brakes makes the car stop.  But the pedal will
> just go the floor no matter how much pumping is done.  Seems like a master
> cylinder, but if there is a nitrogen bomb, it might be in the final stages
> of total failure, too.
>
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Simmons [mailto:indischrot at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:10 PM
> To: rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
> Cc: 'V8 Audi Fans'
> Subject: Re: [V8] The Audi Gods strike again
>
> I've had more than one nightmare about being in a vehicle and pushing
> the brakes, only to have nothing happen OR the dream car (ha) has only a
> small change in momentum.  Wife says it's about "feeling out of control
> of my life and where it's going."  I say that it's improper maintenance
> of dream cars.
>
> Did the brakes give you trouble ever again?  i.e. on the way to the
> mechanic's
>
> ~Scott S.
>
> Roger Woodbury wrote:
>
> >Yesterday, I took my wife's '94 100CS to get its new registration and then
> >to the wrench to evaluate the mysterious but familiar front end clunking
> >that has become more and more annoying over the past few months.  While it
> >was there, we did a complete analysis with more than disappointing totals:
> >
> >       1.  No, the tires won't go through the winter.
> >       2.  Yes, there are some leaks, and both valve cover gaskets need to
> >be replaced.
> >       3.  Yes, the right rear control arm is bad...again:  less than
> >20,000 miles.  Where did THAT part come from?  (Wrench is very pissed! This
> >one is on him.).
> >       4.  Suspension bushings in front are really toast.  Might be the
> >source of the clunking sound on the rutted road.  No, I don't think so:  my
> >nomination still goes to World Pac and their parts string.  We will
> probably
> >have to replace the front strut bushings again, and this time will use OEM
> >pieces from the stealership.
> >       5.  Eventually we will have to do some seals...differential, and
> >possibly rear main seal, but not yet.  Maybe transmission output shaft
> seals
> >also, but not right now.
> >
> >Then, on the way home, having made the appointment for the car to rest at
> >the wrench's for at least two days, I stopped at the grocery store.  I
> >decided that I NEEDED some vermouth to go with that bottle of Absolut that
> I
> >still had.  Out the grocery store parking lot, right turn onto Washington
> >Street and down the steep little hill that "T"d at Water Street.  (Miss the
> >stop, going fast enough, and you launch directly into the Union River with
> >nothing, and I mean NOTHING in the way).  Brake pedal goes to the floor.
> >
> >I MEAN the brake pedal sinks with little change in vehicle momentum until I
> >pumped the brake pedal furiously.  Then the car leisurely came to a stop.
> >
> >"Harumph," thought I.  "Haven't had that sensation in quite a long time.
> >Must be a master cylinder."
> >
> >Called the wrench and reported it all when I got home.  Now the car is at
> >the wrench's awaiting its space in the schedule...December 3rd...and I am
> >driving the Big Black Truck and my wife is driving the Old Gray Mare.  And
> I
> >am rethinking the whole incident.
> >
> >I got no warning lights.  No ABS signal, and no lost coolant. One of the
> >things that is on the schedule are all new rubber brake lines, because they
> >are truly on the way out.
> >
> >But I am wondering if there is a "bomb" on these cars...1994 Audi 100CS, or
> >Type C4, as there is on the Type 44s?
> >
> >Any hints? Mileage:  128,000.
> >
> >Roger
> >
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