[V8] Stick a fork in the V8 I am done ;-)

Tue Aug 5 08:25:59 PDT 2008

What Dave said. BTDT!! finally broke down and replaced with a ZF unit in 
April. I would only attept replacing seals in the future if  I were 
replacing them all and had the proper tools to do so.
Allan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Saad" <dsaad at icehouse.net>
To: "V8 Audi Fans" <v8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [V8] Stick a fork in the V8 I am done ;-)


> If I was me (and I am), I would remove the pump from the car, and fix
> or have it fixed right the first time.  It is not that hard to get
> the pump off the motor, and in the long run you save time.  As I
> recall, you need to remove anything that is in your way - like the
> oil tank, heat shield, air snorkel, or whatever.  I always find it is
> easier to get things out of my way than to fight it.  While you are
> in this far, if you were me, you would seriously consider removing
> all the power steering hoses and sending them to Spokane Hose for
> rebuild. For me this meant removing the ignition coils, and whatever
> else was in the way.  Now with such easy access to the steering rack,
> I would also remove it and replace the boot that is almost certainly
> torn and allowing dirt to accumulate and causing the shafts/seals to
> fail.  Once done with this rather painful procedure, I would install
> an inline oil filter in the rack return line and then keep my fingers
> crossed that when they finally tow grandpas old antique Audi with the
> funny gasoline burning motor in it to the boneyard, it will not be
> leaking any hydraulic oil.  Refill the system with Chevron RYKON 32
> oil, and flush the system a few times in the first year after you do
> all of this work - you will have 5 gallons of oil to use up anyway.
> Eventually, the oil will run clear.  I did not take my own advice and
> ended up doing this in about three steps.  We know for certain that
> the hoses and pump are going to start leaking, and the rack boot is
> going to tear.  May as well just face it and do the repair once.
> Depending on what you do to the pump, this whole thing should cost
> less than $300 (and a lot of time).
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Ed Kellock wrote:
>
>> Yes, to remove the pump, all these things help a lot.  I also
>> removed the
>> heat shield that bolts to the frame rail.
>>
>> When I removed that one x-cap w/o removing the pump, I just had the
>> belly
>> pan off and jacked up the car a bit, threw a jack stand underneath and
>> worked from the bottom w/ a mirror and a light to help me see what
>> I was
>> doing.  I used a 1/2-inch drive ratchet with the drag link socket
>> and there
>> was just enough room to fit it inside the frame rail and get the
>> cap loose
>> and tightened at the end of the job.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
>>> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Kneale Brownson
>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:25 PM
>>> To: Greg Furstenwerth; V8 List
>>> Subject: Re: [V8] Stick a fork in the V8 I am done ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> If you take out the air plumbing and remove the electric fan,
>>> then pull off the pulley, you can wiggle out the pump.
>>>
>>>   I've done it that way several times.  Others report taking
>>> off the driver side timing belt cover helps considerably.
>>> That'll be what I do next time, which may be in a week or so.
>>>
>>> Greg Furstenwerth <slicerdicer at mac.com> wrote:
>>>   I guess my main question is how do you get access to the pump?
>>>
>>> Ed Kellock wrote:
>>>> There are several x-caps on the pump. If you're lucky and
>>> it's not one
>>>> that's covered (that's about all BUT one) then you'll need a sorta
>>>> special tool that is kind of like a very large common
>>> screwdriver that
>>>> is a socket. I believe they're called impact drivers. The official
>>>> torque on the caps is not great, but if it hasn't been off
>>> in a long
>>>> while or if it's been off and overtorqued, it may take some
>>> patience.
>>>> I pulled the pump to replace the o-ring on mine the first time and
>>>> paid the price in that I found the mounting bolts for the pump,
>>>> actually the holes they bolt into, were stripped. I got it back
>>>> together okay and then had to replace the o-ring again (my
>>> fault). I
>>>> did not want to disturb the mounting bolts again so I did
>>> it while on
>>>> the car.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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