[V8] the new guy

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Fri Aug 15 12:14:10 PDT 2008 

I've been using store ATF in a couple of mine for flushing and then Mobil 1
ATF for the final fill.  I only do the drain/refill way where you add  a
gallon and run it for awhile.  Seems to be working well.  I just had the
tranny pan gasket and filter screen kit installed on the 1990 and will pick
it up tomorrow.  I've been stressing about that for a couple of years.  The
mechanic said the screen was not clogged, but how do you know until you see
it?

Ed


> -----Original Message-----
> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com 
> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of lundabo at msn.com
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:46 AM
> To: D Morralee; v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] the new guy
> 
> 
> 
> Not so much an "other side" tale as much as it is the "path 
> less traveled..."
>  
> On my A8L, the auto trans are supposed to be "lifetime" 
> fluids, with no need for change.  Well, anyone who owned one 
> for more than 70k soon realized that the "lifetime" fluid was 
> breaking down and causing wear to the clutches and torque 
> converter lining.  That debris in turn clogged the filter, 
> which caused cavitation and fluid starvation, which led to 
> the premature failure of the transmissions.  Fun.
>  
> So, the preferred route became to swap the fluid and filter 
> every 40k; however, Audi says Pentosin fluid only.  At 
> $25/liter and up to 10 liters needed, you could see how this 
> could add up quickly.  Most listers at Audiworld (don't shoot 
> me) strictly warned to use Pentosin and that it was crazy to 
> risk using anything else.  Well, one lister who rebuilds 
> trannies on the side, did the research and found that one of 
> the major chain store brands sold a fluid with nearly 
> identical chemical properties as the Pentosin.  He started 
> using it with absolutely no adverse consequences.  The cost?  
> $3.99 a quart.  
>  
> So, there is no reason not to try other fluids, but I think 
> the experiments should be from a reasoned approach, not a 
> trial and error....it gets way too expensive if you make 
> wrong choices.  The only other caveat I would give is that 
> there has to be a cost-benefit analysis.  With the frequency 
> that the hydraulic fluid is changed, and the amounts 
> needed...not sure there is enough benefit to warrant any 
> risk.  I.e., I wouldn't change unless I was absolutely sure 
> the new fluid would give no problems. 
>  
> Just my $.02
>  
> Bill> From: superdaveski at hotmail.com> To: v8 at audifans.com> 
> Date: Fri, 15 
> Bill> Aug 2008 13:31:59 -0400> Subject: Re: [V8] the new guy> 
> > > > > now the other side of the Story, FWIW..........> now 
> I know the purist in the V8 crowd are going to get there nose 
> out of joint, but ATF transmission fluid works fine in the 
> Audi Hydraulic system ... After reading up on the properties 
> of both fluids I came to the conclusion that it was okay to 
> use.These two fluids can be mixed . How many of you guys run 
> with synthetic oil in you car ? so what is wrong with using 
> synthetic hydraulic oil . When my 5000 qt sprung a leak in 
> the PS system I put ATF in and it stopped leaking , that was 
> 6 years ago :-) and I'm still driving the car . > Date: Thu, 
> 14 Aug 2008 22:12:39 -0700> From: cheshirecatsbox at gmail.com> 
> To: v8 at audifans.com> Subject: Re: [V8] the new guy> > Yeah, I 
> figured I'd probably do the timing belt just to be safe since 
> i have> no way of knowing if it's ever been done (often shops 
> will write the mileage> on the timing cover somewhere). And I 
> remember reading somewhere that the> original estimate was 
> 90k, but was revised to 60k. Trust me, after owning a> 
> Corrado for 8 years, I'm definitely used to researching.> > 
> II haven't had a chance yet to see all where it's leaking 
> from, but I agree> that someone probably put in regular "red" 
> power steering fluid at some> point.> > From what I've ready 
> so far, I've already gotten pretty excited about owning> this 
> car, even with all the problems. However, I like the grey 
> (Titanium)> color so much more and the 5spd just makes it 
> that much better. Plus it> probably needs far less work than 
> the one I already have.> > From what I've described so far, 
> does it sound like the $850 price tag on> mine worth it? I'm 
> about $1400 into it so far ($850 to purchase, $350 in> parts, 
> $100 for a shop to look at it, $100 title transfer). Should I 
> keep> fixing it, or should I just part it and start over with 
> a better one?> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Kneale 
> Brownson <knealeski at sbcglobal.net>wrote:> > > Right. I meant 
> to say that while Audi originally listed 90K miles for belt> 
> > change, the concensus is it should be 60K.> >> > 
> *lundabo at msn.com* wrote:> >> > Hi Kneale and Seamus....> >> > 
> Read this thread after work today.> >> > Kneale, I think your 
> 90k estimate for the belt is generous. Ours snapped> > at 
> 77k, which ultimately led to the replacement of the engine. I 
> agree on> > your braking advice.> >> >> >> 
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