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even more pleased with the Red Konis.

I've never had a problem with Bilsteins in the larger motions.  It's their
behavior/feel in the really small stuff, the ripples and cracks and small
undulations that all seem to be transmitted through to the seat bottom.

I've been over this a lot in the past and have learned that I am in the
minority by far in my opinion of the Bilsteins and that's okay.  I have
found a feel that I am comfortable with.

Thanks!
Ed

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> Subject: Re: [V8] suspension update
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>  Ed
> The yellows have more damping and more rebound than the 
> reds.? They are considered a "sport" shock.? The yellow 
> rebound is better than the stock Bilstein HD's to a point.? 
> IMU, the valving on the HD allows total bypass of the damping 
> if a sudden impact happens.? That said, I really think what 
> makes the best shock really depends on what the tire and 
> wheel combo is.? IME, the B-HD work really well with heavier 
> +2 wheels and tires, and the Koni yellows work well with 0 or 
> +1 combos.? IME2, the konis in the winter can be brutally 
> stiff, but bang for buck on the v8 the yellows are certainly 
> not a bad compromise.
> 
> Many on the S car list have sent the bilsteins to be custom 
> valved to have more rebound.? With that added feature (IIRC 
> like 50 bucks a shock), they are far and above the koni 
> yellows.? Where I do like the konis is in the rear of a type 
> 44 with linear rate coil over conversions on type 44 cars.? I 
> ran these for years in many type 44's.? Living in Chicago, I 
> found the front Koni's to get really stiff when the weather got cold.
> 
> The best thing you can do for a v8 is put it at stock ride 
> height, whatever shocks you choose
> 
> HTH and my .02
> 
> Scott J
> 92 v8 ABT chip, euros, 17x8.5 mit 255/40 HTRZII,? stock 
> suspension for now
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Kellock <ed.kellock at msn.com>
> To: 'q - V8' <v8 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 3:24 pm
> Subject: [V8] suspension update
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> I finally caved and took my 93 to a shop to have stock 
> springs put in to replace H&R's.  For some reason, I thought 
> I had Koni Reds in there with the H&Rs.
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> When I picked it up and headed home I was _very_ impressed.  
> Very nice ride.  Absolutely _none_ of the jiggly wiggly busy 
> ride that Bilstein HDs have exhibited in my 91 5spd, my 91 
> Avant, and even in my 83 GTI that I had long long ago.
> 
> I got under the car for another reason yesterday and 
> discovered yellow tubes marked KONISPORT in the back.  Wow.  
> I'm trying to remember if these are supposed to be stiffer 
> than Reds or just what the differences might be.  I have a 
> brand new set of Reds that I bought a couple years ago for 
> the 5spd.  I've been trying to get some subjective feedback 
> from various people who are using them with stock springs, 
> but I think first-person experience is the only way to know 
> for sure.  If Reds are less aggressive than Yellows, then I'm 
> pretty sure I'll be pretty happy with them.  I could always 
> change up what I'm doing and put the Yellows on the 5spd and 
> vice versa.
> 
> Anyway, I've driven about 50 miles of mixed driving, city, 
> interstate, one passenger and four.  Still really impressed.  
> It has felt a bit abrupt in a couple of instances, but still 
> a fraction of anything untoward compared to the HD's.  I'm 
> really impressed with the rock-steady feel of it.
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> Ed
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