[V8] running the numbers

cobram at juno.com cobram at juno.com
Wed Jan 16 19:33:05 PST 2008


AND, you don't even mention the "Green Factor."  All this "green" BS
guilt trip inducing junk science doesn't take into account the actual
"environmental cost" of producing and delivering a brand new car.  If you
figure the $$$ and the amount of "planet raping" involved with designing,
producing and delivering a new vehicle, factored in with recycling the
old, the two best things anyone in the first world can do "for the
planet" is to keep their older cars on the road as long as possible
irregardless of gas mileage, and/or killing themselves.  ;-)

BCNU, and hoping gas prices go higher, so my near future candy apple
SL600 mid life crisis mobile gets even cheaper.
http://www.geocities.com/cobramsri/
Democracy: 3 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for lunch.


Mike Arman <Armanmik at earthlink.net> writes:
> 
> 
> Idly playing with my calculator this afternoon, came up with some 
> interesting figures.
> 
> 1990 V8Q, value of car about $5k (generous), gets about 20 MPG.
> 
> Remaining service life is about 80,000 miles (assumes 120K on the 
> car), 
> fuel used in 80,000 miles is 4,000 gallons at $4 a gallon, or 
> $16,000. 
> Residual value of car set at zero - cost to drive 80,000 miles is 
> thus 
> $21,000, or 26.25 cents per mile.
> 
> If I set the value of the V8 at $3,000, my cost to go 80,000 miles 
> is 
> $19,000, or 23.75 cents per mile. If the residual value of a 200K 
> V8Q is 
> $1,000, my cost is $18,000 - or 22.5 cents per mile.
> 
> 
> 
> 2001 Honda Accord, value of car about $8K (guesstimate), gets 
> something 
> like 26 mpg (real world).
> 
> After the same 80,000 miles, the residual value of the car will be 
> in 
> the $4,000 range, so the "cost of the car" is $4,000. 80,000 miles 
> at 26 
> mpg at $4 a gallon is $12,300 in fuel, so to drive 80,000 miles 
> costs 
> $16,300, or about 20.375 cents per mile.
> 
> Basically, it costs me a not quite a nickel a mile more to drive my 
> V8Q 
> than it does to drive my Honda. Yes, I know maintenance is more 
> expensive, but I do a lot of it myself. Insurance is actually less 
> (!) 
> so that offsets part of the maintenance cost.
> 
> 
> Now I'm going to pull some numbers out of the air - we find a car 
> that 
> delivers 40 mpg and costs $25,000. After 80,000 miles, the residual 
> 
> value is $15,000, so the "cost of the car" is $10,000 for the 80,000 
> 
> miles plus 2,000 gallons of fuel at $4, for $8,000 in fuel, total 
> $18,000 making the net cost 22.5 cents per mile.
> 
> Suddenly the V8Q doesn't look quite so bad . . . even if it does 
> hurt at 
> the pump. We need to look at TCO, total cost of ownership, just like 
> the 
> computer guys.
> 
> Sounds like the best strategy is to find an older, low value car that 
> 
> gets 30 mpg or better, and drive it forever.
> 
> (Unfortunately, in most parts of the US, mass transit is rarely a 
> viable 
> option. Where it IS available, you'd be way ahead taking the 
> train.)
> 
> Where it hurts is if you drive 400 or 500 miles a week - which is 
> not 
> unusual. Your cost per mile doesn't go up, but you are putting on a 
> lot 
> of miles in a short time, so you are spending a large amount between 
> 
> "revenue events" (weekly paychecks). It doesn't hurt so much if you 
> 
> drive only 10K or 15K miles a year, then the bleeding is slower.
> 
> 
> Anyone see any major holes in my methodology?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Mike Arman
> 90 V8Q, which may not be such a bad deal after all, and is MUCH 
> nicer to 
> drive than the boring Honda Accord.
 
 


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