[V8] Subframe bushes

Coleman, David David.Coleman at blackrock.com
Mon May 5 12:08:57 PDT 2008 

Ah.   Then the bushings are the same for the auto and manual (5-speed)
trans?    And it's two for the front, two for the rear, correct?

Is the transmission mount, which is right next to the left side trailing
bushing, serviceable and typically replaced at the same time?   Any
other bushings or serviceable parts that I might want to have on hand
when doing this job?

Thanks again,
Dave

PS:  I cc'd the list in hopes of soliciting any additional input.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott DeWitt [mailto:sdewitt at stx.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:51 PM
> To: Coleman, David
> Subject: Re: [V8] Subframe bushes
> 
> The numbers are the illustration numbers. (3) is illustration 3.
> 
> The 'D' is for a factory 6 speed car. The B is for the other cars.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Coleman, David" <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> To: <sdewitt at stx.rr.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [V8] Subframe bushes
> 
> 
> > Hey Scott --
> >
> > Revisiting my impending subframe bushing repair, and am wondering if
you
> > could clarify some of this.  As I read it, the V8 requires:
> >
> > -- Qty two (2) of the 443399415A for the front (leading) end of the
> > subframe;
> >
> > -- Qty three (3) of the 441399419B for the rear (trailing) end of
the
> > subframe;
> >
> > -- AND qty (three (3) of the 441399419D, also for the rear
(trailing)
> > end of the subframe?
> >
> > What do the three-letter codes refer to?
> >
> > Many thanks again,
> >
> > Dave Coleman
> > '91 V8 5-speed
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sdewitt at stx.rr.com [mailto:sdewitt at stx.rr.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:20 AM
> >> To: Coleman, David
> >> Cc: too many quattros; Ron Wainwright; V8 Audi Fans
> >> Subject: Re: [V8] Subframe bushes
> >>
> >> V8 bushings:
> >> 2 443399415A bonded rubber mounting front /
> >> 3 441399419B bonded rubber mounting rear / AKD,ATU,AYU, AZG,AWW
> >> (3) 441399419D bonded rubber mounting rear / CBM,CBN
> >>
> >> S4 Bushings:
> >> 12 4A0399415B bonded rubber mounting
> >> 14 4A0399419E bonded rubber mounting left rear / CBD,CBL,CBF,
> > CBE,CEZ,CET
> >> (14) 4A0399419E bonded rubber mounting left rear / AXM,CAB,CDV
> >> (14) 4A0399419 bonded rubber mounting left rear / AXN,CDE
> >> 15 4A0399420E bonded rubber mounting right rear / CBD,CBL,CBF,
> > CBE,CEZ,CET
> >> (15) 4A0399420E bonded rubber mounting right rear / AXM,CAB,CDV
> >> (15) 4A0399420 bonded rubber mounting right rear / AXN,CDE
> >>
> >>
> >> So no they aren't the same.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- "Coleman wrote:
> >> > Can anyone confirm if our V8 subframe bushes are these the same
> > fitment
> >> > as for the urS cars?
> >> >
> >> > -dc-
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: too many quattros [mailto:thequattroking at yahoo.com]
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:28 AM
> >> > > To: Ron Wainwright
> >> > > Cc: Coleman, David; V8 Audi Fans
> >> > > Subject: Re: [V8] Subframe bushes
> >> > >
> >> > > hehe, actually, i am moving faster then i have ever moved on
any
> > car
> >> > int he
> >> > > past!  my last major project has been going on for 10 years
now!
> > I am
> >> > > ALMOST DONE!  the v8 i started about a year ago.  i hope to
finish
> > it
> >> > this
> >> > > summer.  i have a job that takes me around the world so it is
hard
> > to
> >> > keep
> >> > > up on my desires when i am never home.
> >> > >
> >> > > as for the bushings, i don't think it will be worth while until
i
> > get
> >> > at
> >> > > least 5 people.  so far, i have 2.
> >> > >
> >> > > if i get 5 or more, i will pull the bushings and get a quote on
> > making
> >> > > copies.  for the record, i am not interested in making $$ on
the
> > deal,
> >> > just
> >> > > enough to cover my efforts of going to the PO to mail.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Shayne
> >> > >
> >> > > PARTING:  1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5
> >> > > PARTING:  1986 Audi 4000 CS quattro
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > From: Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
> >> > > > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:03:02 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > To: too many quattros <thequattroking at yahoo.com>
> >> > > > Cc: "Coleman, David" <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>,
> >> > <v8 at audifans.com>
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [V8] Subframe bushes
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Count me in :-)
> >> > > >  I'll ask some others who are not on the list as well.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >  & wasn't your V8 "undergoing" a 4.2 conversion last
> >> > > > time we talked ;-)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >  Ron "undergoing" 4.2 conversion
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- too many quattros <thequattroking at yahoo.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> hey, if i had a fair enough count of people who were
> >> > > >> interested, i would
> >> > > >> pull my bushings and have them copied.  my v8 is
> >> > > >> under going a 4.2
> >> > > >> conversion so i don't drive the car.  It cost me
> >> > > >> about $300 to do my set
> >> > > >> because of the setup time.  material was nothing.
> >> > > >> like $30 worth...or
> >> > > >> something crazy cheap like that.  my bushings were
> >> > > >> done RIGHT.  i consulted
> >> > > >> a with a  mechanical engineer friend of mine who
> >> > > >> pulled out a bushing and
> >> > > >> bearing design manual and calculated how big the
> >> > > >> inner race needs to be.
> >> > > >> and would u know it, the one from the factory rubber
> >> > > >> bushings was damn near
> >> > > >> spot on!  so, i cut those out and used them.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> in short, i am sure if there was enough interest, i
> >> > > >> could get a bunch of
> >> > > >> them turned for under what it cost me to do mine.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I would also like to note, that i can't do this
> >> > > >> project until the end of may
> >> > > >> at the earliest.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> let me know if anyone has interest.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> oh, and dave, COME GET SOME 280 PARTS!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Shayne
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> PARTING:  1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5
> >> > > >> PARTING:  1986 Audi 4000 CS quattro
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> From: "Coleman, David"
> >> > > >> <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> >> > > >>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:39:03 -0400
> >> > > >>> To: too many quattros <thequattroking at yahoo.com>,
> >> > > >> V8 Audi Fans
> >> > > >>> <v8 at audifans.com>
> >> > > >>> Conversation: [V8] Subframe bushes
> >> > > >>> Subject: RE: [V8] Subframe bushes
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I remember previously asking you about those ones
> >> > > >> you made... I don't
> >> > > >>> know who my local delrin-part manufacturer is, but
> >> > > >> I'd sure love a set.
> >> > > >>> Count me in for a set if you decide to make some
> >> > > >> more.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I promise not to pay in '72 280 parts.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> -Dave-
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >>>> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
> >> > > >> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On
> >> > > >>> Behalf Of
> >> > > >>>> too many quattros
> >> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:21 AM
> >> > > >>>> To: V8 Audi Fans
> >> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [V8] Subframe bushes
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> i made some out of delrin.  nice upgrade.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Shayne
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> PARTING:  1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5
> >> > > >>>> PARTING:  1986 Audi 4000 CS quattro
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> No they are not the same - last I heard they
> >> > > >> were dealer only.
> >> > > >>> Don't know for
> >> > > >>>>> sure.
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Jason
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
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