[V8] V8 Digest, Vol 70, Issue 11
Roger Woodbury
rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
Tue Aug 11 16:02:32 PDT 2009
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:10:17 -0600
From: Dave Saad <dsaad at icehouse.net>
Subject: Re: [V8] no start sometimes
To: audi fan <v8 at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <2C909097-8531-4E01-AA56-95F356CADF27 at icehouse.net>
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Yes they can be tested!
If you can get them off the car, all you need is an ohm meter and a
hot air gun. By the way, you could probably pull codes to get the
same info. The ECU probably knows why it is unhappy, but anyway to
test, remove the sensors and gently hold one in a vice. Connect an
ohm meter to the two signal wires and you should read about 1000 ohms.
As you heat the sensor tip up with the hot air, you will see a gradual
rise in resistance, then it will begin a sharp increase, then it will
open up. As it cools, it will eventually go back to 1K ohm. Don't
get crazy with the hot air either or you may just accelerate the
already common fail mode for this sensor. My bet is that you have 4
intermittent sensors. Audi/VW seem particularly clueless in the
design of this part as it is a problem on other newer motors as well.
I agree with a previous post (Steve?) that using starting fluid should
not fix an open sensor, but how about this WAG: maybe the starting
fluid ignites from compression - like a diesel, and the increase in
RPM allows the ECU to use the cam position sensor for timing reference?
Then the motor could magically begin to run.
I should probably drink more coffee before tossing WAGs around - but
it is kinda fun.
Dave
btw, WAG = wild assed guess.
Kaffee? Kaffee? Mein Gott! Nur ein bissen schnapps!
Roger
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