[V8] Selling your V8's ?????

Tue Feb 10 10:28:20 PST 2009

Gunter,

Talk to Roger.
Roger, take a truck and go get Gunters car(s).
Go get the A6 Avant.
Find a nice barn to put them all in and start the swap!
At least one V8 can remain in use in the A6 and stay within the list :)

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Gunter Lorberg <glforensic at yahoo.com>
To: ron_01056 at yahoo.com
Cc: V8 at audifans.com
Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:01 am
Subject: Re: [V8] Selling your V8's ?????

Ron...I am not happy about this as these are the best cars I have ever 
owned, but a number of life events dictate the change.  The two 
Canadian spec 1990 V8's I have owned (automatics) have been vehicles I 
have trusted to get me across large distances on a regular 
basis...through ridiculously adverse weather conditions....safely.....I 
know with certainty that the red V8 once saved my life.  Being a member 
of a select group of V8 owners has been an endearing experience.  I 
will never forget Keith Tackett driving from Virginia to Ohio to work 
on my car (while I lived in Cleveland).  I will never forget Bruce 
Maguire who drove up from Virginia to Ithaca, NY to p-up the two V8's 
for TB's and other major servicing.  Ron....I will never forget the day 
that you drove to Ithaca just to bring me some sport seats which you 
helped install.....you were a really cool guy!

Because I have driven these cars regularly over great distrances, they 
are both getting up in miles (the red one has nearly 365,000km).  The 
red one has probably reached the point of retirement--I have gone 
beyond what the vast majority of folks would do to keep a car running, 
and there are now just too many things to replace to make reliable 
ownership viable.  I'm looking at having to replace a winshield, 
fusebox, many relays, one of theAC control units (the one controlling 
the valves)---this is the 2nd time I've had to do this--when you don't 
catch the leak early on, the water often drains into the electricals 
causing a myriad of problems---other problems that would need urgent 
tending to include failing front UFO calipers, failing suspension 
bushings, and rear passenger door rust perforation issue.  To its 
credit, the engine just keeps on running AND it starts without being 
plugged in at -30 deg Centrigrade beautifully--valve guides slightly 
worn
  but not bad.  The other V8, black one, has 310,000km.  Beautiful stock 
car (even has orginal windshield) and remarkably solid (with grey 
interior with few blemishes) save that the engine is going through a 
quart every 300 miles.  Never fails to start or get me to my 
destination.  For some reason it's always been easy on the gas, too.  
This car spent most of its life on the West coast and saw little salt.  
Underside has stood up well but it could use brake line replacement. 
I've had this car since '04.  I know that the trunk was repainted but I 
can't find evidence of structural damage anywhere.  One previous owner 
must have hit a curb/manhole because, despite several alignments, the 
FR caster can't be set above 0.5 deg (ref range 0.9-1.9)....indeed, car 
pulls ever so gently to the right....tire wear has never been a 
problem/uneven, however.

I had considered swapping engine into black V8 but I just don't have 
the time anymore---working too many hours these days.  Frankly, if 
anyone was interested in a quality 1990 V8 with plenty of life left to 
give, with engine rehab, the black car would likely last out for a good 
number of years.  It has been treated well.

I don't yet know what to do with the V8's but I the thought of just 
dropping them off at a wrecking yard causes me distress.  I know that 
these are special cars, and that they would be a match for only a 
select few people.

I am not interested in making any profit from them.  If someone would 
like to have these cars, they are welcome to pick them up for free (in 
March...2nd week onwards).  I mean that-----no cost.  I really think 
that the red V8 probably has finally reached retirement, but there are 
many parts of value on it.  The black V8 could, however, be massaged 
over (engine) and recruited to run for some time yet.  Both are in 
running condition, but the red V8's sticking throttle and sub-optimal 
brakes preclude 100% safe driving.  Because I have always run seperate 
winter and summer tires, I have two sets of each.  12 16" rims and four 
15" OE Aero wheels (with nearly full 215/60 TOYO winter tread).  I have 
plenty of summer tires.......4 mounted on new 16" TSW rims with central 
screw on cap with AUDI emblem are worn right down....there are another 
4 nearly new Yoko AVS100ES 225 mounted on 16" A8 rims (comes with 5mm 
spacers for UFO's)....AND two brand new
  never mounted Yoko's AVS100ES.  There are another 4 16" Ronal rims 
with 215/55 Dunlop M3 winters mounted....great tires that will last 
through another winter.

If I was able to keep the black V8, I would do the following (in 
addition to eventual engine rehab):
     * swap the rear brakes from the red V8....less then 6 months ago I 
mounted rebuilt calipers on new discs (new pads, too).
    * Change brake lines (hoses OK)
     * effect minor repair to muffler....center muffler replaced last 
year with brand new ($1100) dealer-installed unit...just needs clamp 
replacement/repositioning.
     * swap set of Autolite 103 plugs from red to black V8 (the plugs in 
the red car were replaced about 3000 miles ago)
    * Flush coolant
     * replace one rear window regulator (other side replaced within 
past 2 years)
     * comprehensive TB done by AudiConnection 11/06 at 252,000, incl 
alternator, viscous fan clutch bearing, two HP hydraulic hoses, bomb, 
etc.
     * 241,000--received set of KYB gas shocks, RF wheel bearing, and 
center driveshaft
    * 11/05 - new battery
These cars may not be of interest to someone who wanted to register 
them in the US.....they are Canadian-spec.  I was able to get Ohio 
vehicle registration, but it required some effort.

Unless anyone objects, I'd like to remain on the V8Q audifans list and 
continue to receive emails.

Gunter Lorberg
Penetanguishene, Ontario (1 1/2 hrs N of Toronto)

________________________________
From: Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
To: glforensic at yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 6:25:15 PM
Subject: Selling your V8's ?????

Gunter, I seen you post a manual on AF marketplace & you said something 
about leaving the V8 fold... whats this all about???

Ron
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