[V8] 5 spd transplant

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Fri Jan 16 08:24:30 PST 2009


Is the v8 5spd transmission stronger then than the upgraded urS
transmission?

Is that a different trans code?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott DeWitt [mailto:sdewitt at stx.rr.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:59 AM
> To: wilke_jb at yahoo.com; Ed Kellock; ron_01056 at yahoo.com
> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] 5 spd transplant
> 
> 
> Nope the 200 20V trans is the same as the 200 quattro 
> (1989-1990) with the exception of the final drive.
> 
> The v8 5 speed transmission has wider first and second gears 
> than any other 016 transmission offered in Audi cars. As far 
> as the 016 goes, it's the strongest production unit. the 200 
> 20V is the same box as the 200 10V with the exception of the 
> final drive ratio.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > There's a 20v being parted out here in Colorado Springs.  
> The seller 
> > has been posting stuff up on the Marketplace.  Not that 
> proximity to 
> > me is any help to you, just that I noticed it.
> > 
> > Ron, is the 200/20v trans updated at all in terms of 
> robustness like 
> > the V8 5spd or is it just the gearing?  I was going to 
> reply initially 
> > that it would be a better candidate for that reason but am not sure.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
> > > [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Ron Wainwright
> > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:51 AM
> > > To: wilke_jb at yahoo.com
> > > Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> > > Subject: Re: [V8] 5 spd transplant
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Any what? 20vt trans's? If so I sold the last one I had a
> > > month or so ago.
> > > 
> > >  Get in touch with Scott Dewitt. I think he's still got an
> > > actual V8 5sp trans. Prolly looking to spend $500/400'ish on 
> > > the trans... but as I noted it IS the best trans for what you 
> > > wanna do. A 200 20vt trans will work & would be able to 
> > > handle the power/torque... just the V8 trans is better. 
> > >  All so, for the archives I suppose.......
> > > 
> > > The V8 5sp trans has spacific axle lengths. On say a 200 20vt
> > > the trans sits to one side a bit more....so one axle shaft is 
> > > shorter than the other. On the V8 the trans sits more in the 
> > > middle of the trans tunell... so the axles are both the same 
> > > length.  Discussed on page3 here a little more than half way 
> > > down. There should be some pics... then a bit of a discussion 
> > > about it. 
> > > http://www.justfourrings.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=885&postda
> > > ys=0&postorder=asc&start=40
> > > 
> > >  Ron
> > > 
> > > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Jason Wilkerson <wilke_jb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Jason Wilkerson <wilke_jb at yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [V8] 5 spd transplant
> > > > To: ron_01056 at yahoo.com, "V8 list" <v8 at audifans.com>
> > > > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:32 AM
> > > > Ok, thats what I needed to hear.  Got any laying around? Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Ron Wainwright
> > > > <ron_01056 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: Ron Wainwright <ron_01056 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [V8] 5 spd transplant
> > > > > To: wilke_jb at yahoo.com
> > > > > Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> > > > > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:30 AM
> > > > > You can use many transmissions.... but the ideal one
> > > > would
> > > > > be the V8 5sp trans obviousley. It's a Hybrid of
> > > > sorts
> > > > > honestley. A mix of 016 & 01E parts.
> > > > >  As far as the trans in the 90 200 your looking @ the
> > > > trans
> > > > > would bolt up... but it doesn't have the proper
> > > > gearing
> > > > > (3:89). The trans in the 200 20v is a better fit,
> > > > being that
> > > > > the final drive is 4:11. But,
> > > > > as a source for most of the parts you'd need it
> > > > would
> > > > > work. But you have to consider that your going to
> > > > still need
> > > > > a trans... & axles depending on what trans you
> > > > use.
> > > > >  I would imagine if you could get the 90 200 for $200
> > > > it
> > > > > would be a good deal. Cause then you'd still be
> > > > looking
> > > > > @ at least spending $300/400 for the trans you'd
> > > > need.
> > > > >  Might cost a little more... but I'de look for a
> > > > 200
> > > > > 20vt as a parts donor. You could grab everything
> > > > you'd
> > > > > need... & still be able to make some money on
> > > > parting
> > > > > out the rest of the car.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Ron
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Jason Wilkerson 
> <wilke_jb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Jason Wilkerson <wilke_jb at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [V8] 5 spd transplant
> > > > > > To: "V8 list" <v8 at audifans.com>
> > > > > > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:17 AM
> > > > > > Gentlemen,
> > > > > >    I have contemplated this in the past, but I
> > > > may be
> > > > > > getting serious - we will see.  I want to convert
> > > > the
> > > > > v8 to
> > > > > > a 5 spd.  I have a line on a 1990 200 quattro - I
> > > > > think it
> > > > > > will work for most of the donor parts including
> > > > the
> > > > > trans
> > > > > > tunnel.  I know I will have to buy a special v8
> > > > > flywheel,
> > > > > > but no big deal.  Anyone else have a wrecked v8
> > > > 5spd
> > > > > they
> > > > > > want to unload?  Or a 200?  Is the 200 a good
> > > > choice?
> > > > > Does
> > > > > > it have the right gear ratio up front?  Anyone
> > > > else
> > > > > have
> > > > > > experience in this, Ron?  Thanks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                                      Jason
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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