[V8] [s-cars] V8 vs A8 now 3.0 V6

Wed Feb 24 19:28:19 PST 2010

To be fair to Scott, Oz's car was likely a 2.8, which is what I'm 
thinking of. The rest of my rant still stands...

Dave Head wrote:
> I know Osman Parvez ran his mom's car (100S) right alongside S4s and 
> tweaked turbo quattros all the way from St Louis to Pikes Peak on an 
> enormous high speed run several years back. (that was the year 'someone' 
> in California picked up a maroon 5 speed V8...).
> 
> My general dissatisfaction with Audi centers on their 4 and 5HP24 
> transmissions which were no damn better than the old VW 3 speeds in my 
> 79 5000S. Just more expensive to fix. I could pop the whole transaxle 
> out of a 5000S in about 90 minutes flat. In a pinch I could take off the 
> 4 nuts holding the trans section on the back and just swap it out, 
> praying I got the 18" long pump drive in right...
> 
> That's why I never bought an S8... There's a grand business rebuilding 
> A8/S8 transmissions going on on Audiworld.
> I can get a bulletproof 4L60E for under 1800 bucks no shipping or core 
> charge. It will hold 500 hp and last forever...
> 
> I never thought I would get here, but I've gotten tired of wrenching on 
> cars after the heart attack - and I have yet to own an Audi that didn't 
> have 5 things that needed fixing.
> 
> In comparison, my Jetta TDI never had to go to the dealer for a thing in 
> 70K miles other than a timing belt. I changed oil and filters and that 
> was it. In almost 6 years of ownership I had to replace a battery. That 
> was it. I put tires on it before I traded it and had the recalls done.
> 
> In two years the wifes 03 Deville has had oil and filter changes and the 
> tires rotated. That is IT. It knocks down 19 mpg city driven 
> judiciously, sips a quart of oil evers 1800 miles and gives me 25 mpg 
> hwy with a Northstar V8. And if you want it to move, it will. Maybe it 
> doesn't have the grip and suspension of a V8 quattro, but its also not 
> 50 and 100 dollaring me to death every time I've turned around.
> 
> The 5 speed has been very reliable - likely because Dave C. pampered it 
> to death and I've barely put 2.5K on it including the drive down from PA.
> 
> Dave Head
> Audiless tomorrow for the first time since 95.
> 91 V8 5speed
> 90 V8q red
> 92 V8q green
> 90 V8q lago
> 90 200q pearl
> 87 5000TQ brown
> 79 5000S - the one that started it all!
> 
> 
> Scott DeWitt wrote:
>> The 3.0 gas engine is a piece of shit, probably the worst engine Audi 
>> has made. The cam sprocket bolts tend to loosen over time resulting in 
>> total engine destruction.
>>  
>> ---- Dave Head <v8q at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> The 3.0 is a rock solid engine, and you can put a supercharger on it 
>>> if you want more pep...
>>>
>>> Brian Armstead wrote:
>>>> As an aside from this thread, does anyone know the reliability or 
>>>> any issues with the 3.0 V6?  I'm looking at a 2003 A6 Avant with 
>>>> one.  I like the pep, but don't want a leaking nightmare. Any other 
>>>> a6 Avant advice? Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>> 93 S4
>>>>
>>>> Dave C wrote:
>>>>> Howdy Q-heads,
>>>>>
>>>>> My fleet of Audi's consists of two 1987 type 44's.  I bought one of 
>>>>> them in
>>>>> 1992, and have been driving and maintaining these things for a very 
>>>>> long
>>>>> time, doing all my own maintenance and know them inside and out.  
>>>>> But they
>>>>> are getting on in years and I find myself considering replacement with
>>>>> something newer.  The question is "how much newer?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm nervous about not understanding how a car works and maybe being 
>>>>> unable
>>>>> to repair it when things go wrong, etc.  I recently drove a 2007 A8 
>>>>> for the
>>>>> first time and was in awe of the complexity of the cockpit with so 
>>>>> many
>>>>> electronic gizzies.  I've never driven a V8, or even sat in one for 
>>>>> that
>>>>> matter, but I'm aware of the loyal following they have.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like I could buy a first generation A8 (D2) for somewhere 
>>>>> in the
>>>>> neighborhood of $10K but it would be a ten year old car with 100K 
>>>>> miles on
>>>>> it, so I would need to anticipate repairs from the start.  I don't 
>>>>> want to
>>>>> spend a whole lot more than $10 K on a car, but could go higher if 
>>>>> I felt it
>>>>> was worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd actually like to have an avant, but choices are limited.  A 
>>>>> 2002-3 S6
>>>>> avant would be very nice :-)  Maybe I should consider an A6 avant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering that I like to keep my cars for a long time and do my own
>>>>> maintenance, would I be better off with the more familiar 
>>>>> technology of the
>>>>> V8 or an URS4/6?  I think there would be a benefit to getting 
>>>>> something ten
>>>>> years newer than that (A8) but it would still be a 10 year old 
>>>>> car.  Another
>>>>> upside re: the A8 is that there are a >lot< more of them available 
>>>>> to choose
>>>>> from.  Most of the V8's and URS4's are pretty beat by now... clean
>>>>> low-mileage examples are quite scarce.
>>>>>
>>>>> So ...  should look for a clean V8 or URS4?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or should I look at something much newer and try to adapt to 21st 
>>>>> century
>>>>> automotive technology?
>>>>>
>>>>> Decisions, decisions.
>>>>> - -
>>>>> David Conner
>>>>> Columbus, OH
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