[V8] tire musings

Tue Jul 20 10:38:02 PDT 2010

Yes Ed helped me out with the General UHPs, great summer tire and I love them and have no complaints.

Very good price point for their tires to ..see attached cheers superdave 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Exclaim+UHP

60-70 per tire for 15" But I have an aftermarket rim and mine are 17' . 

> From: ekellock at gmail.com
> To: kamerer at gmail.com; rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com
> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:08:04 -0600
> CC: v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] tire musings
> 
> My hands down next choice for a new set of tires will be Generals. I think
> the Altimax would suit your conditions perfectly. There's a higher
> performance version that I might try as well. I sort of helped another V8
> lister choose those for his V8 and he's happy, eh Superdave?
> 
> The Generals first caught my attention because they are shown to be
> considerably lighter than most anything else at Tire Rack. I have watched
> the tire reviews pretty closely over the last 1-2 years and they seem to be
> very favorably regarded, on the whole, taking into consideration the almost
> complete lack of any real reliable wisdom... you kind of have to distill
> each review, taking into consideration all the info available and make your
> best guess what the real situation is.
> 
> I noticed Fusion were crap very early... heavy and lots of poor reviews at
> TR. If you read enough of them you can glean a fairly reliable opinion of a
> tire.
> 
> I have had Michelins and was very impressed, but also not inclined to pony
> up for them.
> 
> As for wheels... the stock wheel for your Avant is 15x7 with a 45ET offset
> wearing 195/65-15 tires. An urS6 Avus wheel is 16x7.5 ET37. With a
> 205/55-16 tire, you should see no speedo error. The General Altimax RT is a
> standard touring all-season tire and is available in that size. TR shows
> that the max rim width for this size tire is 7.5. Even the load rating is
> the same as stock (91). The only measurable difference in tire/wheel
> dimension will be a function of the offset which will cause each corner to
> be pushed outboard by 1/2 and inch which will widen the tire track by an
> inch.
> 
> I'd say go for it. I have two sets of urS6 Avus wheels and like them very
> much. They're not quite as light as the previous 5-spoke urS4 wheels, and
> some say the urS6 Avus are more prone to bending, but I haven't had an issue
> yet. I have a set on the black V8, with 10mm spacers and it looks great.
> On my 91 Avant, they are perfect as is. I have some old Kumhos on them but
> when I do re-tire for the Avant, I will get the Generals.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of
> Bryan Kamerer
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:09 AM
> To: Roger Woodbury
> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] tire musings
> 
> 
> Roger,
> 
> I do not think the wheels are a problem.
> 
> 1) I guess you are talking about the Avus 16" since you say "+1". Some S6s
> then came with the 15" five-spoke alloy, same as is probably OEM on your CS.
> 
> 2) +1 doesn't matter, because you will use a lower profile tire to match the
> OD. It's the width you are concerned about. I don't think that will
> matter. It's only 1/2" overall (thus 1/4" on either side of centerline).
> 
> 3) Yes, the '95 S6 did have nicely flared fender arches, but I don't think
> much more than the 100CS.
> 
> The Avus 16" is only 1/2" wider overall vs that 15" you have - I have had a
> set of the Avus wheels for a long time; I have used them since about '99 as
> a my snow wheels on my V8. I use some late '90s A8 alloys as my "summer"
> wheels. I think the Avus wheels are sharp, too. But I do think they look
> better on the S6 or a 100CS than on a V8, though, in all honesty. I saw a
> photo of a 92 100csq running the A8 alloys, and they fit inside the fender
> wells just fine. So if it will run them then the Avus are no different; I
> know as I have both. I think the offset is 3mm different between the two,
> but not enough to matter.
> 
> As to tires I have little advice other than check out some General tires for
> good value. I did a ton of homework last year for new tires for the Land
> Cruiser, and lots of people said you got a lot of bang for your buck from
> them, especially vs. the Japanese and Euro brands. I heard this from
> multiple car-guys whose opinion I respected.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Roger Woodbury
> <rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com>wrote:
> 
> > Alas it is about tire time, and sooner rather than later I must 
> > replace the horrid Fusion tires that I put on my wife's 100CS thirty 
> > thousand or so miles ago. Tread depth is really shy on the rears and 
> > the fronts aren't great. They will not pass state inspection in 
> > October, I know.
> >
> > I am having a flirtation with a set of '95 S6 wheels and tires, used. 
> > The wheels look very pretty in the pics, but the wheel/tire size is a 
> > plus one for the '94 100CS Avant we have.
> >
> > Any comment about whether these would be a direct fitment, or will I 
> > have clearance problems with tire width? I cannot for the life of me 
> > remember whether or not the S6 had slightly flared fenders in '95.
> >
> > The cheapest deal in town is Super Walmart. Right now they mount and 
> > balance free, and will meet any price from anywhere if you bring it 
> > in, in writing. I am in the process of choosing tires, and am reading 
> > the tire ratings, particularly noise levels with feverish frenzy. The 
> > Fusions have been sort of OK. They provided decent service and value 
> > for the price, which was cheap, and have worn OK on the heavy Audi. 
> > But NOISE? OMG: can you say LOUD?
> >
> > What is the current opinion about the "hot hand" in tires? The choice 
> > will need to be a decent, quiet, all season standard duty or touring 
> > radial. Would love to put Michelins on this car, but they are probably 
> > going to be simply too much money. The car came with a set of 
> > Michelins that had about ten thousand on them or so, (39,000 miles at 
> > original purchase date).
> >
> > Then I bought a set of Dunlop D40's (?) on the Fuchs rims that the car 
> > is on now, because I had one OEM wheel that had a cracked rim. Those 
> > tires had some miles on them as the wheels were used. Worked great 
> > and the wheels are
> > MUCH lighter than the OEM star wheels, whatever those are/were.
> >
> > Then the Fusions that really, really suck in terms of road noise. The 
> > guy at Tire Rack warned me that these were "Bridgestones on a budget", 
> > and he wasn't kidding. If we were doing any really long distance 
> > driving in this car, they would have had to be sacrificed a long time 
> > ago. One thing most Audis are is pretty quiet from underneath if the 
> > tires are any good. Anyway, we're at the end of the road with these, 
> > and now, something better.
> >
> > So as usually, to break the monotony of a Tuesday morning, I am poling 
> > the brain trust.
> >
> > Roger
> >
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