[V8] fuel smell

Ed Kellock ekellock at gmail.com
Thu Nov 25 10:27:02 PST 2010 

It's still somewhat early here in LA, far, far away from my all V8's in
Colorado Springs (though there is one for sale just over in Long Beach...
NO!).  It's creeping toward 60 here on the PV Peninsula.  It was 10 this
morning in Colorado Springs.  Yikes!  

Thanks Dave for the happy wishes from the north.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.  The pumpkin pie is done.  Turkey time is later
in the afternoon.

Take care,
Ed
 


-----Original Message-----
From: v8-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of
D Morralee
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:52 AM
To: fatboy03 at gmail.com; Ingo Rautenberg
Cc: audi fan
Subject: Re: [V8] fuel smell



Happy American Thanks Giving to My American V8 Friends....... do I smell gas
or is the turkey burning . superdave 
 
> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:46:06 -0500
> From: fatboy03 at gmail.com
> To: ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> CC: v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] fuel smell
> 
> Ingo,
> No that hadn't been brought up.But after looking at it for a few 
> minutes, directly under the FPR their is a bolt/nut missing that 
> screws down into the manifold. The gas is just sitting down in there 
> in that part of the manifold. There is 5-6 other bolts just like that 
> on different places in the manifold. The manual calls them fuel 
> manifold bolts. Where would I find one of those? And is that most 
> likely the culprit?
> 
> Almost time to eat some turkey :)
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Curtis
> 
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Ingo Rautenberg 
> <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> > wrote:
> 
> > Sorry to jump in so late. Sounds like you either have a 
> > cracked/broken hose to the carbon canister or maybe the valve is not 
> > functioning properly. That's where the carbon canister resides.
> >
> > If that's already been discussed - my apologies.
> >
> > Ingo
> > On Nov 25, 2010 11:44 AM, "Curtis Helton" <fatboy03 at gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > It's definitely coming from the engine bay. On the right side if 
> > > you were sitting in the car.
> > >
> > > Getting ready to dig into it right now.
> > >
> > > Happy Turkey Day guys!!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Curtis Helton 
> > > <fatboy03 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> LMAO....Nice write up Bryan.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the tips.....I was thinking along those lines. Would 
> > >> worn
> > fuel
> > >> injector seals be a culprit? Also, when it's cold out, it's alot 
> > >> worse.
> > Why
> > >> would that be?
> > >>
> > >> Yes, I'm sure we will have a few beers, wrench a little then go 
> > >> sit down and gorge ourselves..LOL
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the recipe, but I don't cook. LOL
> > >>
> > >> The inlaws do the cooking. They maybe insulted if I tried to cook 
> > >> something. :)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks alot you all for all the replys. I'm going to check it out 
> > >> when
> > he
> > >> comes over in the morning. In the mean time, I'm going to let him 
> > >> drive
> > one
> > >> of my cars until it's fixed.
> > >> I'remember reading on here about several v8s burning to the 
> > >> ground. :(
> > >>
> > >> Curtis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Kamerer 
> > >> <kamerer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> bad fuel smell
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe get fresh fuel so it smells better? I hate the smell of 
> > >>> spoiled gasoline. Personally I have never encountered a "bad" 
> > >>> fuel smell
> > myself, I
> > >>> love the smell of gasoline. It smells like, .... "Victory" I 
> > >>> think. Especially mixed with little flakes of aluminum oxide and 
> > >>> pectin...
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok, once I admit, I do recall a "bad" fuel smell. But that was 
> > >>> in a
> > strip
> > >>> club one night, where it was totally not situationally 
> > >>> appropriate.
> > Turns
> > >>> out a Buddhist stripper was about to protest the working 
> > >>> conditions,
> > but in
> > >>> a really self-destructive way...
> > >>>
> > >>> OK, back to reality. There are a number of possibilities but the 
> > >>> real deal is with two of you, diagnosing it will be easy - one 
> > >>> can crank
> > while
> > >>> the other sniffs around. Gasoline evaporates quickly enough that 
> > >>> a
> > minor
> > >>> leak "high up" can fall on something else and then evaporate 
> > >>> before it leaves a trail on the ground. So look more intently up 
> > >>> on the fuel rails/intake area more intently. If there was a 
> > >>> minor leak there, it
> > would
> > >>> get sucked into the cabin more easily, then evaporate against 
> > >>> the hot
> > engine
> > >>> before it hit the ground. More likely a loose 
> > >>> connector/connection than
> > a
> > >>> split line. Kill the spark so it doesn't fire, then it will be 
> > >>> easier
> > to
> > >>> spot.
> > >>>
> > >>> A great Thanksgiving is always wrenching a bit and solving 
> > >>> something arcane but not horribly complicated, then sitting down 
> > >>> to a great meal.
> > I
> > >>> recall a few years ago on Thanksgiving: my dad, me, my '94 
> > >>> Harley Dyna Glide, and a loose primary balancer bolt. Then my 
> > >>> Tennessee
> > grandmother's
> > >>> cornbread dressing and a deep fried Turkey. Awesome. Looks like 
> > >>> you and your son will have a great holiday. And if you need a 
> > >>> recipe for real southern cornbread dressing, email me privately. 
> > >>> I got it. Happy
> > holidays.
> > >>>
> > >>> Bryan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Curtis Helton 
> > >>> <fatboy03 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> My sons 90 v8q lately has a bad fuel smell on startup. It 
> > >>>> doesn't leak any gas on the ground anywhere. He said it's hard 
> > >>>> to tell where the smell
> > is
> > >>>> coming from.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any ideas?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> He's going to bring it over this weekend and I'm going to take 
> > >>>> a peek
> > at
> > >>>> it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Curtis
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