[V8] C4?

Sun Oct 24 12:46:36 PDT 2010

I think it's 92-98..

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From: MendezWerks [mailto:mendezwerks at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 3:11 PM
To: Bryan Kamerer
Cc: Roger M. Woodbury; V8 at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V8] C4?

1995-1998 Audi A6. 

On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Bryan Kamerer <kamerer at gmail.com> wrote:

OK, but I still have no clue what "C4" means in audi speak.  Color me maybe
backwards myself.

Actually I was thinking of posting today because throwing my Acura SLX up on
jacks the other day for a few hours of service has turned into three days
(wrong tranny gasket in the kit!).  So have have hussled the V8 out the last
few days.  Damn.  Every time I drive another vehicle, then go back to that
car, I just marvel at it.

I was marvelling yesterday (is that a real verb? "Marvelling?)  at the
interior space.  This is something I have always appreciated, mind you, not
a new discovery.  I can sit fully back in the drivers seat, and stretch my
arms out and I can not touch the dash panel wood with my finger tips.
Awesome.  I am 5-10, a muscular (and fairly attractive, I might add, in case
there are any female lurkers on the list) 200lbs.  So I am not small.  This
is in fact one of the reasons I bought the car way back in like '97 or so.
It's like a living room in the front seats.  I drove that thing 5 or 6 hours
straight on friday nighs after a 70 hour work and I arrived fresher than
when I left.  There are damn few cars that can deliver that.  I have the
factory 5 speed with those different seats, so maybe that makes a
difference. But even the slush boxes will have the same space.  The other
ting I marvel at is the engine.  I know it is only 3.6l, but it is damn
nice.  It has, on paper, the same specs as the 4.7l Toyota V8 they used in
everything from the mid 90s to now (it is now bored out to 5.7l in the
newest Tototas/Watchamafucks - oh yeah, "Lexus."  Whatever.).  I live now up
a steep hill. I actually live in a geat place to put a 105mm artillery piece
and then shell the Microsoft HQ.  That is my secret fantasy. OK, back to
reality - The Acura and other cars I drive are down to 2nd to get up it  but
I just run up it at 1500 rpm and 4th gear in the V8.  And it pulls fine and
is lively to the foot.  Gotta love that.  If any of you guys have a 105 or
larger field artillery piece, talk to me privately off-list.

My ex and I also had a 100  series Land cruiser (the 98 to 2007 body type).
I loved that.  Only vehicle I could consider giving up the 5 speed v8 for.
But the V8 is so much more car than the Land Cruiser, which I otherwise hold
as the finest motor vehicle evermade (except perhaps the liter-class Honda
sport bikes, which of course make me shiver they are so thrilling).  So much
more refined (the V8), comfortable.  And of course except for ground
clearance, just as all-weather capable on roads as the legendary Land
Cruisers.  I used to live in Vermont and I recall so many times in blizzards
having to dive my V8 into snow banks to pull around Range Rovers and such
that were stuck on the road.  Really.

I was considering selling my V8 and getting a 100 series Land cruiser, but I
have firmly decided I will just get a cheaper tow vehicle (I have a horse
and trailer I need to two periodically now) and keep the 5 speed V8 as my
"forever" car.  I did buy an Acura SLX for that purpose (gussied up Isuzu
Trooper - it's pretty cool, actually. But it's no Audi and it only has a
V6).  I might actually, when I get old, buy a bulldozer and then have
whoever has to clean up after me just dig a big hole and bury me in my '91 5
speed.  Love it.

Ok, so what the fuck is a C4?  Besides a great way to kill commies en masse.

Bryan

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:29 AM, MendezWerks <
<mailto:mendezwerks at gmail.com> mendezwerks at gmail.com> wrote:

LOL

On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:21 PM, "Roger M. Woodbury" <
<mailto:rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com> rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Well, ah, actually, ah..yeah.
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> As much as I like your concept, and at the risk of demoralizing you or
> dampening your, ah, adventurous spirit, I think that the C4 being
discussed
> here has a much lower expansion rate.
>
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> At least you got the "front end toward the enemy" part right.
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>
> Roger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:  <mailto:jellyroll4 at gmail.com> jellyroll4 at gmail.com [mailto:
<mailto:jellyroll4 at gmail.com> jellyroll4 at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
> Kamerer
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:39 PM
> To: Roger M. Woodbury
> Cc: NIck Miller;  <mailto:V8 at audifans.com> V8 at audifans.com
> Subject: C4?
>
>
>
> WTF in your context is a C4?
>
> I am confident it is something cool, but as far as I know C4 is a very
> exciting nitrogenated compound with an inert long-chain stabilizing base.
> AKA a "plastique" -  to sound cool by aping the French.  Which should be
> done only in a limited way, of course.  Otherwise some dumb asses will
start
> a revolution and guillotine innocent people by the thousands for no good
> reason, then an inter-continental war they will obviously loose.  That's
> just the French way about things. Has been that way for hundreds of years.
> Incredibly retarded.
>
> But proper C4 has a gas expansion rate of around 26,000 feet per second.
> Placed behind 00 buck shot, it is a recipe for serious fun.  Serious fun.
> Comes labeled in a small plastic box that says "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY."
Tons
> of fun, let me tell you.
>
> I am thinking you are talking about something else?
>
> Bryan
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> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Roger M. Woodbury
> < <mailto:rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com> rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> Without question, buy the C4.
>
>
>
> I may have the oldest C4 on this list.  Or I may just be the oldest C4
owner
> on this list.
>
>
>
> Whatever the case, our C4 is a 1994 that now has passed 157,000 miles.  We
> bought it in 2001 with 39,000 miles from the original selling dealer, and
in
> the past nine years have spent the money necessary to keep it in as near
new
> condition mechanically as possible.  What does this mean?  Well, including
> tires, around $2000 per year in general maintenance, and the car is now
> mechanically good to go for the next year or two with very little
mechanical
> items about which I am concerned.
>
>
>
> The newer car with its more expensive and sophisticated 30 valve
> engine/electronics/transmission will likely prove to be more expensive to
> maintain.
>
>
>
> I don't think there is much other difference in the two models.
>
>
>
> In the end, if the maintenance records for the past nine years are
complete
> and show that the car has had the things that it needs and the newer car
> does NOT, then there is no question.
>
>
>
> To my experience, on these cars regular maintenance is everything,
> especially in areas where there are harsh driving conditions to consider.
>
>
>
> Our car gets new tires next week, and once they are on, I will write about
> them.  You all will be amazed after I posed the question to the list a
while
> back.  Once our C4 is properly shod with decent tires, we'll be good to
go,
> and for another 30,000 miles most likely.
>
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> P.S.  I recommend the Depo e-code headlight replacement on this car, too.
I
> changed the headlights in the C4 not long after we got the car, and the
> Depo, sometimes maligned H4 headlamps have been a perfect upgrade for the
> standard DOT headlamps on this car (which weren't all that terrible,
> either).
>
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