[V8] Ramblings

Tue Apr 17 07:10:39 PDT 2012

Another cheaper solution the crank case issue would be to swap the valve covers and valley cover (crank case vent system ) from a bad abz motor. Just to be clear, I am not saying this is a better solution to the abz, just if done properly, it can be a much cheaper solution if you already have an ABH
-Allan

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Scott Justusson <qshipq at aol.com> wrote:

> 
> Funny, I've been accused by several well known listers as being an old fart living in the past....  I work on cars for a living, they all break, and Audi is no exception to the Engine R&R rule, the factory calls for engine R&R on a B5 S4 turbo replacement.  Active Noise Control is our future, as cabin acoustics are not 'just' noise entry approaches, but cabin noise *control* strategies.  One can be amused that BMW put it in first, but Audi is just a model year behind.  And no automaker's engineering department considers it a gimmick, it's either here or on the way.
> 
> To the v10tdi, or any other 'service' rant, that's always an amusing topic.  I drive machines and enjoy them for what they do on the road, while on the road.  Any Audi owner that wants to enter into a 'service' record argument, just pick a model, the list is long on the known issues from A8/S8 transmissions, chain tensioner gaskets on 5v engines <all>,  k03 turbo failures by the pallet-load, even the v8 with it's unsolved crankcase ventilation problems.  At the end of the day, owning any car is the balance of the love>hate relationship.  The impressive part of the v10tdi IMO, was the ability to take a 3.6auto v8 at a stoplight with an urq on the trailer!   
> 
> Sorry to hear you couldn't figure out the 4.2 auto motronic adaptation to the 5speed, it's not that hard.  That said, I suggest for the price of that 'proper' ecu, you could have just bought the ABZ motor, which IMO/E is a better ABH.  I'm in the spec stages of a 5/6speed v8 track car build, and I see no reason to use the ABH engine, especially since a complete coil over plug ABZ with harness and ecu can be had for under a grand (see a_cq thread on MG, we used my truck to pick up that engine at the yard).  And none of the smokey exhaust from a poorly designed crankcase ventilation system.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Scott J
> 91 v8 Auto 3.6
> 92 v8 Auto 4.2 ABT Chipped
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Professor GT gmail <CavalloGT at gmail.com>
> To: V8 <V8 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2012 9:05 pm
> Subject: [V8] Ramblings
> 
> 
> OK. OK, I knew sooner or later I'd get sucked into the Vortex and have to add my 
> 2 cents on a few topics. That's what's so cool about this forum: we can not only 
> pontificate on all sorts of things, but occasionally some good useful info comes 
> out of it too.
> 
> K, first things first! Stereo (us old farts call it a stereo because we remember 
> the days of "monoral" sound, that spews fake engine sounds! It's a car, not a 
> friggin video game! Come on BMW you are stooping to Jap Car antics to attract 
> more sales just for the sake of sales! Shame on you! Put the money into 
> something better suited to give "drivers" what they are looking for, not fake 
> BS! BMWs current model line up may be fantastic, but stooping to the level of 
> "fake" sound to make "the experience" "ultimate" is pretty lame no matter how 
> nice the car is. End of Rant 1
> 
> Next, VWs V10 TDI Touareg is an awesome ride, that is until you have to fix it! 
> I spent just shy of 5 yrs as a VW factory geek, and was one of the "lucky" one 
> who got to go the Wolfsburg & Slovakia, the locations of Engineering and the 
> Touareg Assembly plant respectively, for 3 weeks before the US launch to learn 
> as much about these vehicles as possible before they we thrust upon the 
> unsuspecting US customer base!
> 
> The ONLY way to own one (V6, V8, or V10 TDI is on a lease, so you can give the 
> POS back before the inevitable deluge of repairs needed has you remortgaging 
> your house to pay for it!
> 
> Seriously, it is a nightmare in the making.
> Ready? 
> The V6 thermostat needs replacement?
> The V8 alternator needs replacement, or
> The V10 TDI O2 sensor needs replacement?
> 
> You sitting down?
> 
> All three, per the FACTORY shop manual REQUIRE Engine R&R!
> 
> Are you kidding me? What idiot would engineer such a bunch of BS? Oh yea and the 
> subframe attachment bolts were teRing out their threads upon assembly at the 
> plant as there is only about 1/2 inch of thread engagement skid you try to pull 
> up the subframe with them they strip, if the didn't in fact strip upon 
> installation at the plant, or when the poor unsuspecting repair tech goes for 
> it. Even better, the nuts are captured inside the frame rails, so the only 
> viable repair is drilling them out, etc., etc., etc!
> 
> I know, they hired the same rectal engineer the designed the Ford F-series to 
> require cab removal to do any involved word beyond the simplest of operations, 
> and I was a"Ford Man", but not after that brain fart!
> 
> So, then there is the Audi V8!
> 
> All I can say is that back I'm the late 80s when I was a rep for BMW in the 
> tri-state area I had an M5 as a demo for a while, and it was one of the nicest 
> vehicles I had ever driven overall.
> 
> Fast forward to about four uears ago when i got my 91 V8 5-speed. The first  
> time I got it out on the road I had a flash-back to the M5 bit it was even 
> better than what I remembered thanks to the Quattro System and the nice tone of 
> the V8 engine - Nothing beats the sound of a finely tuned Ho-Po V8!
> 
> Is it somewhat of a pain in the butt to work on? Yea, in some ways, but in this 
> case it's a labor of love, because the car is so fine! With a strong 4.2 ready 
> to swap in with a correct manual trans 4.2  Motronic Unit this car is gonna be 
> fantastic! The fact that it does not have to be my daily driver will also help 
> with "Stage Two" which will be twin Garrett TB04 Turbos with custom injection 
> control. I will be fabricating my own stainless manifolds, and will have an 
> absolute blast doing it. 
> First priority is to get my automatic car's engine swap done (3.6 for 3.6) as 
> this will be my daughter's first car! - spoiled brat! Hey hot chick with a hot 
> car! It doesn't get much better than that!
> 
> Once that's done it's on to the 4.2 fun with my stick car!
> 
> Can't wait to get started, but moving very slowly as I'm recovering from a back 
> injury which put me out of work for a month.
> 
> Ah, now I feel much better! Thanks for indulging my rants. 
> 
> OWDEE ON! 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ProfessorGT
> 
> 
> 
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