[V8] ... subject: closer to Audi content, and....

[Scott Justusson]

On ur chebby
I was just at the yards here in Chicago yesterday.  I bet you could put together the 200mm front end conversion for under 100bux, and be choosy about the condition of the trim.

On Cibie
The 200mm class retro-aux lighting should include the Rally 2000, and the Bosch Motorsport 200's.  I own several sets of the latter 2. For the Cibies, the more compact 190 (Oscar +) has the same driving light range and pattern as it's big brother, and what I ran on my Scirocco rally car (2 drivings x 100w and 1 pencil x 100w).  In the 200mm class, 100w bulbs are best kept for the driving, in pencils they are so good, they are useless (reflecting signs, dipping to low beam too far from oncoming traffic, highly sensitive to humidity conditions)

On Aux lighting and cops.  
On one of my treks back from Michigan to Chicago in the rally car (also my daily driver) back in 1985, someone flashed high beams at me a half mile out, when I had just the low beams (euros) on.  I did a quick flash back with my quad4 high beams only: H4 (55/100) and H1 highs (100w).  To this the oncoming driver turned on his high beams and left them on...  Ok here...  I reached over and hit the switches for the 3x100w Oscar+ relays, and then fully engaged the high beam switch controlling 700w of light, to find myself lighting up a local sheriff patrol car in full glory.  He shielded his eyes, pulled to the side of the road, and switched on his gumballs.  But he just sat there, so I kept driving with my eyes glued to the rear view mirror.  He certainly had me dead to rights on the "operational forward facing light law" in Michigan (=6 btw), but maybe he figured it would be hard to explain exactly why he chose draw first blood with the extended tazer coming at me.  I thought for sure I was going to jail that night

On Audi Content:  
I remember sitting at the awards banquet after POR back in the early 80's, and one infamous Audi driver John Buffum, already well celebrated in champagne (usually before I was even done driving the last stages), decided to lament the fact that he was running Bosch 200 lights, instead of the Rallye 2000 he much preferred.  A rather lengthy rant until thankfully, Grimshaw managed to pull away the microphone, since a lot of Bosch execs were in attendance at the time.  True story!

Cheers

Scott J
Bosch, Cibie, and Hella ordinance aplenty

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger M. Woodbury <rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net>
To: 'Scott Justusson' <qshipq at aol.com>; chance9121 <chance9121 at gmail.com>
Cc: dsaad <dsaad at icehouse.net>; v8 <v8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 8:33 am
Subject: RE: [V8] WAAAAAAAY off subject: NAC! not even close to Audi content, but....


Scott's right about the reflectors....in lighting size does matter as a general statement.  There really is no substitute for a great big reflector that is deep and preferably regular in pattern. Perhaps the best of the best are the Cibie Super Oscar, which are an enormous round driving or fog lamp.  That particular lamp uses the venerable H1 bulb in a very deep perfectly round reflector and will push enough lumens more than a mile down the road to read a newspaper with.  Enormously expensive, too. Cibie also makes a Bi-Oscar which uses an H4 bulb and gives both high and low beams in one housing...again: enormously expensive.
 
I think I have come to a decision about the Chebbie truck.  Rooting around in the back of the barn I came across a new in the box pair of Hella Optilux 1900 driving lights.  I had completely forgotten I had bought them, oh, six or seven years ago.  They are big round and deep lamps with a single H3 bulb. Big chrome/metal housings and, now I remember:  I bought them because of the size and rubber isolation supplied with the mounting.  I think I bought these for my first GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 pickup and decided there was no good way to mount them since I was using a Fisher Minute Mount plow system at that time.  Anyway, on the Chebbie these will work just perfectly.
 
I will replace the oem polycarbonate headlight units with new, aftermarket lamps, take power to the auxilliary lamps from the high beam side of them, and relay through a dash mounted switch so I will have high beams, or high beams with auxilliary lamps as required or as driving conditions allow...don't want to blind some State Trooper!  (Been there done that!  Lit up the inside of a trooper one night years ago in a Porsche 912 that had two Cibie 45 (7" round flat driving lights), QI headlights and some sort of flood lights down low...forgotten which ones.  Anyway, the Porsche WAS going warp nine, trying to make up time on a night rallye, and the cop was just sitting still when I careened aroudn the road to light him up broadside.  He could do nothing except yell a lot, and that he did...chewed my ass good, and made us TWENTY minutes late on the leg!  That was on Cape Cod and trust me: you can't even THINK about doing that down there today.).
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Without doubt the BEST installation would be the installation of the rectangular 200mm European headlamps (Hella or Cibie).  But that is also far and away the most complicated and expensive, as it will require replacing the grille, the headlamp mounting brackets and all the assorted adjustment gizzies, either form a junk yard or from GM direct.  It would make this entire project approach four hundred bucks if I source new parts.  IF I was driving this truck all the time as my only vehicle and I was doing a LOT of night driving, it might be the best solution, but I'll start by using what is in hand.  
 


 
Roger