[V8] ... reality check

Fri Dec 19 10:53:21 PST 2014

I guess I'm not sure why a perfect V8 interior would be sold to a
junkyard.  I'm a buyer for black leather front and rears for $1000.  Just
saying.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Ingo Rautenberg <ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Pat,
>
> I'm very sorry to read of your travails. Both of mine had fully-functional
> clusters. My original  5 speed V8 had a service file almost two inches
> thick when I bought it 10? years ago. It had custom ground cams from
> Germany, had its block replaced by Audi due to excessive oil consumption
> and was a real hoot to drive. I have friends who can attest to four wheel
> burnouts and the lopy rumble of a Boss Mustang sound. Alas, these cars do
> require regular maintenance and a steady supply of cash. I loved that car
> almost as much as my '84 Urquattro, but the resulting financial problems
> from the economic collapse in 2008 and my mother's waning health made for a
> perfect sh!tstorm and a
> my realization that I needed to be very frugal with my money. So for the
> time being I'm driving an E34 BMW 2.5 liter with 208k on the clock. It's
> not pretty or fast, but it's reliable and light-footed and fun. And tire
> wear is negligible. It's easy to replace items and well-thought-out in its
> execution. Plus the parking brak uses brake shoes for the rear instead of
> the spiral dual duty rear caliper piston that VAG should be ashamed of.
> Parts are far less expensive and are readily available.  I'm sure I'll get
> another Audi in the future. Don't despair. I figure I've put  400,00 miles
> between all of my V8s.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Ingo
>
> On Friday, December 19, 2014, patrick gillen <pat_gillen at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Merry XMAS to all from a struggling V8Q dissenter (sound like an AA
> > meeting?):
> >
> > In all these V8's going to the crusher, is there a totally working
> > cluster, original or with  re-soldered colored harness jacks? I need one,
> > and if all jacks were not re-soldered, the lower the miles and the most
> > laboratory-perfect-ambient-the car-operated-in the better.  441 919 035 P
> > VDO 110.008.369/047.
> >
> > If not, after 16 yrs of fighting parts unavailability, I suggest we all
> > cut the esoteric V8Q BS, rally together and CRUSH THEM ALL. It was a good
> > car, but a never ending money and more importantly time sink is no
> longer a
> > good car. When I bot mine 16 yrs ago from an elderly doctor-only driver
> who
> > only drove it salt free garage to garage, his dealer service file was an
> 1
> > inch thick at 100k miles. I added another inch of service file for
> another
> > 70k except mine is mainly parts receipts and countless labor hours.
> >
> > I have been driving 50 yrs and the V8Q is plain and simple, an out of the
> > box lemon. A lot of it's technology is transplanted from its brethren,
> how
> > could it be so screwed up? Two inches of service file is not right for
> any
> > vehicle under 200k that is used on the street, at least for the common
> ones
> > I have owned. And all my problems are the same ones you had.
> >
> > My position now, which I first found laughable not too many months back,
> > is supported by a nameless NW V8Q expert who really opened my eyes
> recently
> > as I bought a HP hose from his shop as yet another part that can't be
> > bought new. He got a wrecked V8Q exactly like mine on Thurs, I called him
> > Friday out of frustration looking for a used hose and he said he was
> > crushing it on Sunday. I said, whaaat? So stupidly, I wasted the better
> > part of a day chasing a used +3000 psig hose before the crusher got it,
> all
> > along wondering about my sanity on a used pressure hose.
> >
> > And I'd almost be happy to eat the last $1k in various parts I've spent
> > while I can't still drive it out of the garage because some genius
> decided
> > the defective cluster solder joints should also control something so
> simple
> > as the radiator fan. Like y'all, I too sincerely appreciate most of the
> > Audi engineering but some of it is beyond ridiculous and done without
> > senior engineering oversight and I am done defending it.
> >
> > So let's crush all the V8's, the rare 5 speeds first. And if there is a
> > '94 floating around somewhere, lets bonfire it in Pioneer Square; I will
> > light it and take the heat. But first, let's deal on a cluster so I can
> get
> > another 30k mi while rationalizing all my recent wasted labor and
> > parts...until the next fiasco.
> >
> > Pat
> > 1990 V8
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: V8 [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of
> > Allan Vega
> > Sent: December 18, 2014 7:35 PM
> > To: Ingo Rautenberg
> > Cc: V8 Audi Fans
> > Subject: Re: [V8] ... reality check
> >
> > (Closes eyes, and sticks fingered in ears) la la la la la la la can't
> hear
> > what your saying la la la la la
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Ingo Rautenberg <
> ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I literally gave mine away last month to the local salvage yard. Both
> > > 5 speeds :(  They both needed work: The one had a perfect interior and
> > > the other had an almost-perfect totally rust-free exterior. Both
> > > needed steering racks, one needed a fuel pump and the other had half
> > > of the injector wires eaten through by a rodent (guessing a chipmunk or
> > squirrel).
> > > I just didn't have the time or space to work on them. Audi-less for
> > > the first time in 28 years.
> > >
> > > Ingo
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Steven B <urq222 at ymail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Funny, I just came to the realization that one if not both of my cars
> > >> will end up being donated for charitable tax purposes and end up in
> > >> wrecking yards somewhere ...
> > >> ... wow ...
> > >> I'm pretty sure I found the pick-n-pull where Gerry's '91 5-speed
> > >> wound up ... and almost had a chance to go out there to confirm my
> > suspicions ...
> > >> Steve Buchholz
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