[V8] Ignition lock replaced
Jason Bass
rasrunnit at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 11 11:31:04 PST 2017
Happy Holidays to all
While trying to start my car, the key switch suddenly broke free. Leaving the car unable to start and stuck in accessory mode. I knew instantly that this most likely was the dreaded broken lock tumbler tab that I previously had read about on the audifans V8 list. AAA towed her home..
I followed an old post from cobram. See below. Thanks bud.
He described a shortcut method of cutting the black trim off the key tumbler then using a lock pick to slide in and depress a hidden spring, releasing the lock cylinder.
After three hours of trying, I gave up on the shortcut and used the longer method outlined in his post. Separating the steering column, removing dash, etc..
As described, I found the small metal tab on the back of the key tumbler which engages the ignition switch broke off. The ignition switch was also cracked but appeared to still be functional.
Took me days, but she's all back together. Cleaned up. New ignition switch, lock (and key). Back on the road and looking good. I've completed many repairs on my V8. Steering rack, timing belt, heater core, control arms...(Many thanks to all the contributors on this list). I found this repair challenging.
-Jason
Original post..
From: cobram at juno.com
> To: v8 at audifans.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003
21:50:15 -0400
> Subject: [V8] Ignition Lock
>
> A few observations that will
save lots
> of time and cursing. I
had to
> change the lock cylinder
because the
> tab on the back which goes
into and
> turns the ignition switch
had broken
> off.
>
> This job is relatively easy,
especially
> when you IGNORE most of the
> procedure in the
manual. I
> removed and replaced the
ignition lock, and
> only needed to get the
kickpanel,
> cluster, top half of column
plastic and
> the dashpad out of the way.
>
> I did NOT remove the Airbag,
Column
> Switches, Console, Trim,
Steering
> Wheel, Glovebox and the rest
of the
> complex scenario I had
envisioned
> necessary for removing the
aluminum
> crossbrace.
>
> With the parts in the second
sentence
> out, through the aluminum
> crossbrace you can get at
the two small
> screws on top and the plug
on the
> back to pull out the
ignition switch
> (plastic part.). Have
a mirror
> ready.
>
> I removed the few screws
holding on the
> wood trim on the left side
(wood
> that goes around lock) too,
so I could
> pull it forward (did not
remove it
> completely.) Took the
anti-theft
> torx screw out of ignition
lock.
> Removed the two lock nuts
from the
> retaining plate on the
floor, down by
> the firewall that hold the
steering
> column to the rack bushing.
> Removed the two bolts with
the captive
> nuts (one had a bracket and
relay
> attached to it.)
> Removed the three side bolts
and the
> four top bolts on the column
that
> hold it to the aluminum
crossbrace,
> pulled the column forward a
bit to
> easily separate the column
(mark the
> column position on the
bushing so
> you can put it back the same
way), then
> put the column shaft to the
left
> and high of where it
attaches to the
> bushing. This way the
column could
> be pushed in (with some body
weight
> behind it) enough so that
the
> steering lock could be
pulled out and
> turned to clear the aluminum
brace
> to come out.
>
> After removing the tumbler
mechanism
> from the rest of the
steering lock
> assembly, (drilled hole etc.
as per
> manual) I put just the
steering lock
> part back first to make
things easy,
> and pushed the new tumbler
part in
> after the steering lock was
> installed. This way
you can put something in
> the tumbler hole of the
steering lock
> to hold the steel locking
bar to
> the right while installing.
>
> If you've read this far,
this is a
> payoff here......by doing it
the hard
> way, the easy method
revealed
> itself. Did not do it
on the car of
> course, but a bench test
with the old
> lock worked. If
you cut the
> black collar that goes
around the
> ignition key cylinder
(you'll need a
> small whizzer, dremel tool
or something
> of the sort), you'll be able
to
> reach the spring that holds
the lock
> cylinder in the steering
lock and
> push it down with a piece of
flat hard
> metal, a lock pick iron
worked for
> me. Once this spring
is pushed
> down the key tumbler will
pull out, no
> need to do anything more
except push in
> the new piece! Man, I
could have
> avoided all the above
work. The
> most you'll have to do is
remove a
> couple of screws and pull
the wood trim
> back so you won't damage it
while
> cutting off the black
collar. You
> will ruin the old tumbler
this way,
> but if this is the part
you're changing
> it's a moot point.
>
> From what I could see, you
cannot
> re-key the new lock tumbler
assembly,
> so you're stuck with two
keys until you
> get around to re-keying the
other
> locks. Total time was
around 4
> hours, most of that spent
figuring out
> what held what where and who
was on
> first. The new lock
cylinder from
> the dealer (Mac at Clair)
was $54.00.
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