[V8] V8 timing belt tools
Dave Saad
dsaadme at me.com
Tue Feb 28 10:51:25 PST 2017
The Bentley has a great detailed procedure. I would follow it. E.g.: the cam bolt torque is at least 35 lbs/ft as I recall. I actually think it is 45. Definitely not 16.
I recommend using a torque wrench for everything.
The crank bolt takes something like 280 lbs/ft torque. You need a good tool to get it off/on.
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> On Feb 28, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Samuel Mrowka <smrowka at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a good summary. It's confusing to explain to someone until they see
> it, as they need to understand that the belt system and the heads remain
> decoupled from each other until the last step.
>
> The cam locking tools only serve to prevent the heads from rotating when
> you're fiddling with the belt system. Once the timing belt is
> installed/tensioned/done, tighten the cam bolts and double-check your work.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Jason Wilkerson <wilke_jb at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> George, I have personally done this to set the time on a PT motor (3.6)
>> It should be the same for the ABH (4.2) as they both have distributors.
>> This does NOT work on the later ABZ motor - which I do have the tools for
>> if you need them. I also have the tools for the later 5v motors where you
>> hold the cams in the Front of the engine. Read ALL of this before
>> attempting to do this - if you are not comfortable with everything below
>> there is a great chance of YOU screwing your motor up bad!
>> 1. Set the engine to TDC2. Remove the distributor caps and mounting
>> plates, check the slots in the back of the cams. They are offset and
>> should be parallel with the deck of the head (the surface that the valve
>> cover mates to)- if they are not, rotate the crank one full revolution.
>> You can use a small straight edge to check this.3. Loosen the cam to
>> sprocket bolts and remove the timing belt. Pull the sprocket from the
>> taper fit on the cam with a puller (do NOT turn the cams at this point -
>> read: Bent valves), re-install sprockets loosely and install bolts within a
>> turn or so shy of tightening sprockets. (you should be able to spin the
>> sprockets freely without turning the cam - but not so loose they wobble
>> around)4. Do all of your timing belt stuff (New rollers, tensioner, water
>> pump, etc.) I forget how to adjust the tensioner - If you need to know
>> that let me know and I'll look it up. Make sure the tension side of the
>> belt is tight.5. Double and Triple check that the crank is still at TDC
>> and that both slots in the cams are perfect with the head. You can use a
>> large drag link to adjust this if it is off. It will only be off if the
>> new belt is different in length than the old one.6. Tighten the cam bolts
>> (I don't think they take alot of torque? maybe 16 ft lbs? - don't take my
>> word for it!)7. Rotate the crank clockwise 4 times - double check all
>> marks.
>> Additionally - if you want to try, you can leave the sprockets tight with
>> the cams, mark the cams in relation to the belt cover housing, install the
>> new belt and check that the slots line up in the back. They should be very
>> close unless the new belt is different in length then the old belt when it
>> was new.
>> Heater core is a pain - detach some ducts inside on each side of the
>> tunnel, remove rain tray and strap from under hood and use pry bars to
>> remove heater box. Split heater box and remove core. Make sure all the
>> flaps line up correctly before putting box back together. Make sure
>> weather stripping is undamaged when putting box back to avoid leaks.
>> Rack is a pain too - I have always done them when the engine or tranny is
>> out - still a pain. I have heard you can coerce it out through one side or
>> the other but prepare for much frustration!
>> Good luck and hope that all makes sense! On Monday, February 27, 2017
>> 2:17 PM, Ben Castle <grillage at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If all else fails, I’ve had luck renting them from force5auto.com
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/17, 1:12 PM, "V8 on behalf of George Verbryck" <
>> v8-bounces at audifans.com on behalf of georgeverbryck at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi I see the list doesn't have much activity . Hopefully however some
>> one can still help out. I got a 92 a couple of years ago and now its time
>> to get it going again, third attempt. I need to do the timing belt and was
>> wondering if anyone was in the Los Angeles area who could lend or rent me
>> the special tools. I have read that all the tools may not be necessary. I
>> have not the job before so any guidance would be appreciated. In addition I
>> need to do the rack and heater core so I am looking for recommendations
>> for sources for these parts. The car passed smog last time with like new
>> numbers so I am making a big push to get it out there one more time. I
>> figure if I do all this big stuff I can live with the idiosyncrasies until
>> it dies. Thanks , George
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