[V8] '93 V8

Ben Castle grillage at mac.com
Fri Jul 28 10:20:29 PDT 2017 

Not sure

Ben 


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> On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Ricky Joshi <rickyjoshi01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Any ideas whether this was a total flood or just interior? I am saddened as
> well.
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2017 6:00 PM, "Dave Saad" <dsaadme at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It had to be too good to be true.... That probably explains why the engine
>> bay was so clean?
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Ricky Joshi <rickyjoshi01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Ben-
>>> 
>>> 1) Thank you for this
>>> 2) I'm going to cancel my ebay bid
>>> 3) How did they get the interior to go from that link to what's posted
>>> 
>>> Much of my desire to buy it was because of the interior.
>>> 
>>> Ricky
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ben Castle <grillage at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Beware – just heard from a friend who looked at this car about 8 months
>>>> ago – it had water problems then – mold and mildew from some kind of
>>>> flooding.
>>>> See his pics from then:
>>>> http://quattro4life.com/images/v8/
>>>> 
>>>> also, said it needs PS pump and lines, as well as timing
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/27/17, 12:40 PM, "V8 on behalf of Paul Jager" <
>>>> v8-bounces at audifans.com on behalf of pjager at telus.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Yeah I'm just joking. It looks great but expect or ask about:
>>>> 
>>>>   Valve stem seals - oil burning. Not a big issue as you can
>> workaround,
>>>> just don't start the car and stop it within 5-10 mins. And use low
>>>> viscosity oil
>>>> 
>>>>   Ask about Oil leaks from head gasket, steering rack, hoses, etc etc
>>>> driveline
>>>> 
>>>>   Electrical op -
>>>>   Lighting (dash cluster)
>>>>   Climate display
>>>>   Audio - all speakers work?
>>>> 
>>>>   Really needs a PPI I'll bet it will be a bit of a rap sheet
>>>>   Cosmetically looks superb tho.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>   From: V8 [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Ricky Joshi
>>>>   Sent: July 27, 2017 8:47 AM
>>>>   To: Paul Jager <pjager at telus.net>
>>>>   Cc: v8 at audifans.com; Roger M. Woodbury <rmwoodbury at fairpoint.net>
>>>>   Subject: Re: [V8] '93 V8
>>>> 
>>>>   I am bidding.  Are these serious concerns? I don't mind spending a
>>>> little bit on a belt change and tuneup to get it back in shape. Ill
>>>> probably swap the wheels too.
>>>> 
>>>>>   On Jul 27, 2017 4:26 PM, "Paul Jager" <pjager at telus.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You missed:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cam Belt shroud gasket out of place
>>>>> Spare tire Foamie/retention not period correct :) Coolant bottle is
>>>>> not original Not original petrol
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm out
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Roger M. Woodbury
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 4:27 AM
>>>>> To: v8 at audifans.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [V8] '93 V8
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, how do I not love thee?  Let me count the ways!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now before we begin to hyperventilate over the '93 V8 on eBay, here
>>>>> are my observations now fully OUT of the Audi Quattro orbit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, it's pretty and has low miles.  BUT the seller while he waxes
>>>>> poetic about the wonderful condition of the car leaves out ALL the
>>>>> most important bits and pieces of information and worse: he makes
>>>>> false statements and misleads with others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First of all, he mentions the car has European headlights.  True
>>>>> enough in that they probably were installed and made in Europe but
>>>>> they are US DOT headlights just like any other Audi for US
>>>> automatically had.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The car has "period correct" wheels.....well, maybe they were made in
>>>>> 1993, but they are NOT correct for this car and are n no way a proper
>>>>> wheel for a V8 unless he specifies the wheels are the correct offset.
>>>>> Also, no mention of what brakes are on the car and I suspect the
>>>>> seller may not even be aware of why this might or might not be
>>>> important.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Despite the nice cosmetic appearance, the right front corner Audi
>>>> logo
>>>>> is missing from the lower body molding.  This is not uncommon and I
>>>> am
>>>>> not sure the pieces are even still available to make this little
>>>> piece
>>>>> that annoys the devil out of me, "period correct".
>>>>> 
>>>>> and naturally, the seller ignores, doesn't realize, dosen't care, or
>>>>> perhaps no one else did, the belly pan is missing from the car, and I
>>>>> suspect it will be a long search to find another one that isn't
>>>> beaten
>>>>> to death in the wrecker yard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The cell phone in the arm rest was standard equipment in ALL V8's
>>>> ever
>>>>> imported to the US.  It was NOT an optional extra.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally although the seller claims all services are up to date, I
>>>>> would need to KNOW when the timing belt service was last done,
>>>> because
>>>>> I'll bet you lunch it wasn't within the past dozen years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, having said all those negative things, would I, as an
>>>> experienced
>>>>> Audi V8 owner consider buying this car?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simply put: NO.  Not even if I could fly out to whereever this car is
>>>>> and along with a qualified mechanic do a thorough PPI. The reason is
>>>>> that the car is simply obsolete.  There are far too many newer cars
>>>> on
>>>>> the road for small dollars that do what this car does at a far lower
>>>>> cost per mile.  At some point the V8 quattro will be a true
>>>> "collectors"
>>>>> car. That is to say, thee LAST V8 Quattro running in perfect
>>>> condition
>>>>> with 10,000 miles from new will be for some museum collection of some
>>>>> eccentric millionaire who has forgotten what cars he has in his
>>>>> collection.  Otherwise, no: just another Audi oddity in Audi's long
>>>>> history of such vehicles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I LOOOOVED my V8's and enjoyed having them, especially the last one
>>>>> which was white pearl over black with charcoal headliner.  But they
>>>>> all took a kind of dedication to maintenance that was expensive that
>>>>> is simply no longer appropriate for me.  Time and my enthusiasm has
>>>> moved on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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