[Vwdiesel] Rotella Synthetic

[TexasTDI]

According to a virgin oil analysis of a sample of Rotella Synthetic, the TBN
is 8.5, not 10.

Chris Thornton
1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles
2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 76k miles
Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
http://www.amsoil.com
http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x

----- Original Message -----
From: "dominique cormann" <dcormannml at rogers.com>
To: "TexasTDI" <TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com>
Cc: "Val Christian" <val at swamps.roc.ny.us>; <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Rotella Synthetic


> The oil is just fine.
>
> If you are planning on using it for the 6 months or 10K mile interval
> that most TDI owners use, then this oil is just fine.
>
> On Freds TDI web forum you will find many users of this oil, and a few
> threads on oil analysis's that were done that show it handles this
> interval just fine.
>
> A group 3 oil is more then adequate for this application. Buying a group
> 4 oil for the normal TDI drain interval will not give you more
> protection. A group 4 based oil will flow better at arctic like
> temperatures ( you'll gain a ~5C advantage ), and it is more stable, so
> it can be used if you wished to extend your drain time beyond what VW
> recommends. Otherwise, both will perform the same until you start to
> beyond the temp or mileage limits.
>
> The rotella product has a pour point of -40c, which is more then what
> most people will need.
>
>
https://thegenesisnetwork.equilon.com/genesis/prodinfopdf/out/ROTELLA%20T%20
SYNTHETIC.pdf
>
> The rotela synthetic has a TBN of 10, and the Delvac 1 has a TBN of 12.
>
> A higher TBN does NOT mean an oil protects better. It just means that it
> will likely stay base longer.  During that that time the oil will not
> perform any better. So paying more for a higher TBN number alone will
> not buy you any more protection, unless you need the higher TBN number,
> your just wasting money.
>
> The TBN of the Rotela synthetic is adequate for the interval used by
> most TDI owners. If you plan to go longer, or are going to use higher
> sulfur fuels, then investing in a higher TBN oil is justified. Otherwise
> buy the rotella if its more convenient and/or cheaper.
>
> That all said, we use Delvac 1 5w40 in a saturn SL2 with yearly oil
> changes, so i'm not biased against the product. I just think its
> overkill without benefit if used for 10K/6 month changes, in a diesel.
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:01:05 -0600
> "TexasTDI" <TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's a good oil.  But at $19 a gallon, is overpriced IMO.  It's a Group
3
> > oil.  That means it starts out as a dino oil (it's made with dino oil
> > basestocks).  Group 4 oils like Mobil Delvac-1 and Amsoil are made with
100%
> > synthetic basestocks and only cost about $20 to $25 a gallon.
> >
> > Also, the TBN (total base number) is very important.  The higher the
number,
> > the better the oil protects the motor.  Delvac-1 and Amsoil start with a
TBN
> > of 12, whereas Rotela Synthetic only starts with a TBN of 8.5 .
> >
> > Chris Thornton
> > 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles
> > 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 76k miles
> > Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
> > http://www.amsoil.com
> > http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Val Christian" <val at swamps.roc.ny.us>
> > To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 6:28 PM
> > Subject: [Vwdiesel] Rotella Synthetic
> >
> >
> > > Anyone have comments on Rotella 5W40 "synthetic"?  The application is
> > > a TDI.
> > >
> > > Val
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