[Vwdiesel] head gasket woes(way too long)

[Nate Wall]

Were both the head and block gasket surfaces impeccably clean?

--Nate

cass wrote:

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> the head gasket was a elring(sp?)
> ive used them before..no problem..
> i used the old non stretch bolts..
> re-torque as per Bentley manual ..
> cleaned bolt holes..
> gasket on right side up..right new  head gasket..
> coolant is still great..
> today i checked block for warpage
> its str8
> ran a smooth file over  block surface...
> there was disturbingly 'low spots' round all the holes.
> i choose to ran the smooth file over the block surface
> to get a better 'flat' surface  :o/
> i know ive done this before on other diesel vw blocks
> before rebuild with no problems...don't think i did it to this one though.
> (will check projection after..but don't think it should significantly alter it)
> i am also going to get some stretch bolts..
> but i have the 'smaller' bolts..can i get stretch bolts in the smaller size?
> im told there the same as the gas ones...wondering if i should use gas ones or stick
> with the non stretch small hole ones for diesels?
>
> thankyou again:o)
>
> cassie
>
>   Also, what torque procedure did you use?  You gave it a "warm-up" and "1000 mile"
>   torque?  The bolt holes were very clean before installation?  The head gasket is
>   right-side up?  You began with a new gasket?  The coolant is still good?
>
>   Dana
>
>   Nate Wall wrote:
>
>   > Who made the head gasket? and was it a diesel motor gasket? Erling (sp?)
>   > is the brand you should be using. Its VW OEM.
>   >
>   > --Nate
>   >
>   > cass wrote:
>
>   >>i completely  rebuilt this 1980 1.6NA diesel about 20,000 k ago.
>   >>it ran great..except for a very small antifreeze bubble at the front
>   >>of the gasket/head.
>   >>right from the get go.
>   >>a pin head really...i re torque the head...
>   >>didn't get worse..didn't seem to affect anything..
>   >>but i figgerd it was on borrowed time..
>   >> i figgerd it might be that
>   >>i had had the head resurfaced..and i felt the new surface as a wee bit
>   >>rough...
>   >>but put it on anyways.
>   >>but it didnt go away after re-tourquing
>   >> i figgerd replacing the head gasket meant take the head in
>   >>again to be re-resurfaced..
>
>   >>it finally started to steam like there was no tomorrow..
>   >>ran just a little on the hot side at this time.
>   >>no oil in water..or vise versa..
>   >>so i parked it n took off the head...
>   >>now..this motor has NEVER been over heated..
>   >>yet the head gasket looks like nothing ive ever seen.
>   >>at least 8 different cracks..very obvious..
>   >>everything elts is very normal looking...
>   >>injectors  glow plugs ..cylinders..
>   >>the gasket just looks like it really was drastically over heated n
>   >>abused.. :o(
>   >>
>   >>so.. has any one elts seen this and can they tell me why a head gasket
>   >>on a fairly new re-build
>   >>never been even over hot...would do this?
>   >>is this kinda normal?
>   >>the car was running perfect  no really abnormal smoke..no loss of
>   >>fluids..
>   >>up till when it did the steam show.
>   >>and it was taken off the road immediately..
>   >>
>   >>im a lil frustrated n concerned..
>   >>thinks i should consider?
>   >>
>   >>thankyou in advance
>   >>
>   >>cassie
>   >>
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